they really look like they tried to leave sm, but failed and they know they stuck now.
his ass really staring
No problem, but in my rambling, I was trying to be as polite as possible; I'm implying most kpop fandom works have the depth of a shallow pool. Besides blind praise that I don't feel most of it deserves, I really wouldn't have anything else to say. I was never rude to anyone, ever--they were simply reactive to me asking basic questions about the stories, which they couldn't answer. There are some fandom works I love, but there is no room to have a genuine conversation anymore. The artists are too sensitive to take basic level questions. I wouldn't waste my time critiquing a fan comic or fic that doesn't possess even simple plot structure. The rare times I have simply asked a worldbuilding question, the people get so offended not because I'm rude but they barely know what worldbuilding is. My writing or art isn't perfect, far from it. But the other fandoms I participated in left room for someone to call out stuff, or analyze. In this fandom specifically it's hard to do that because it's not that deep. I want to in my spare time, when I'm in the mood for exo content, to give someone who writes a good story a long comment. Maybe even ask a few questions, but it's a catch 22 situation. I understand exo fandom creators want their fandom back. I get that. I'd love more funny original exo content, but it's a different climate now. Somehow the one direction fandom is still making fanworks that get attention and get made into movies. But I just don't ever remember Anna Todd freaking out, because somebody asked her, why she put ab or c in her story. It wasn't a great story, but any critique good or bad she accepted rewrote and published it. And people who could read it for free still bought it, cause it's about respect. Respect is mutual. I would never blast someone else's story or anything like that. But many writers or even people making jokes, say things that are pretty far out, yet if you even slightly question it--you should just go somewhere else. No, I don't think asking an author what they want to hear is appropriate, it's not. If they wanted their comments or replies turned off to avoid noise they could easily do that.
Also by critique, besides me just telling the author my plain opinion, like I like the story structure, the characterization, pacing, descriptions? Or in terms of art, you can't say anything about anybody's art online, so I don't. I just heart what I like and keep moving. Fanart can be good, but a lot of it just isn't.
Creativity makes more of a mark than perfect digital art. Nothing feels handmade anymore or has passion. People can sense that. Again I'm not judging or saying I can do better, I am just being honest.
and to show a proper example here is a comment I once left.
I will blot out the author name and the character name. Usually I rarely comment. I don't feel like digging through all my old profiles to find more. I can compliment a creator all day, but many don't have much to say. Which is fine, but this author in particular, really really wanted people to comment. I felt bad so I did. It feels like they want comments so their work will seem popular more than they want to create a good story.
This was not a bad interaction it just felt like a pointless one, is this the type of response people want? In the past even teen romance writers had more substance. In the end I just feel like this works when a fandom is full of very young people who are happy with pointless conversations, but mature people want something real to talk about.
I wish y'all good luck though, hopefully some of what I and others said can help the way creators choose to interact with their audience in the future.
I'm genuinely curious as to the answers, so if you see this could you please do me the favour of signal boosting this so it reaches more people?
I see posts circulating now and again about lack of interaction on fandom creation posts. No one reblogs. No one comments. But I never see anyone asking why. Is it simply a matter of being in the middle of an etiquette shift? Is it crossplanted members of social media communities having different social norms? Has the way people use Tumblr shifted? Speculation only goes so far so to better understand what I'd like to know is the following:
How long have you been on Tumblr? Any fandom not just Exo.
What is your take on fan created works on Tumblr and interacting with them?
Do you have a process for what goes on your blog? How do you find most of the posts you reblog? Through the dash? Through the tags?
Do you spend time on other platforms? Have you in the past?
How do you interact with fan creations on these other platforms? Do you like comment or share? Do you re-tweet? Etc.
When was the last fic of any length (drabble and blurbs and headcanons/reactions included) you read? Last time you saw fanart (including edits and moodboards and graphics) you enjoyed?
Did you reblog it?
If yes you did reblog did you say anything about it? Simple or otherwise? Leave a gif underneath that expressed how you felt? Put a comment in the tags? Left an emoji? Etc.
If you didn't leave commentary was there a reason? Do you feel like you start to repeat yourself when commenting? Do you think there's nothing to say? Were you following the adage if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all? Other reasons?
If no you did not reblog why? Is there a specific reason? Did you not like it and not want to say? Does it not fit your blog? Was it not a length or level of skill you felt warranted a reblog? Have your friends already seen it? Do you only post your own creations? Other reasons?
For our fan creators I have an extra question. Do you reply to your comments? Even if they're in the tags?
If no is there a reason?
Please take a moment and share your answers cause I'm trying to understand where things shifted from what they were before to now.
Exactly, why are women caring what any biomale movement is talking about when other movements exist without caring anything about female issues at all? It's very sad and indicative needing some type of male validation to feel a certain way.
Women on TikTok are talking about 4B but refuse to read the SCUM manifesto because it’s “transphobic” and “radical feminism isn’t nothing without our trans sisters!”
Yeah, that 4B isn’t gonna work for you honey. Can’t even read a book. Can’t stop pandering to males because you don’t want to hurt their feelings. Mission already failed..
SHUSH.... he's reading
(Long introduction for context)
This one is so old. I did research on this, like, around the time peaches came out. I have way too many notes; some I deleted, and only God knows where they are now. I’m not spending a whole day looking for them, and I need something to focus my attention on that makes my brain cells work. So I’m going off the dome. It’s actually better when I do that because I do active research instead of looking at old notes, and I can find new info.
So what is the theory? Well, long story short, I had a theory that Kai of EXO was actually a character, which he is technically; all celebs are. They are named by their company, given a backstory, a personality, and Exo even had ‘powers.’. Like, babe, that’s a character, obvi. In this train of thought, a character has to be played by a real person. We are given that much information by the company. The actor playing the character Kai of Exo is Kim Jongin. Story over... right? Well, maybe so, but that’s not how my brain works.
Backstory to this. I actually wasn’t always an inquisitive person. I years ago was actually pretty dull. I spent most of my time worrying about grades, being a good kid, and, I don't know, iCarly, Victorious, and memes. But then I found K-pop; I was super curious about everything because it was so new to me. I had to learn everything I could. This was easy because I liked world history and learning about different cultures and stuff. I think Growl was the first mv I saw. I wasn’t too familiar with K-pop, but I did know it existed, vaguely. To be honest, it was just something taking up my time. I was just monitoring it and watching, learning names. It was during the One Direction era.
(historical context)
One direction the boys that walked so boybands could rise again. People talk bad about them but forget they single-handedly made boybands cool again. There were others, but the impact wasn’t the same. 1D was the blueprint of the up-and-coming boy bands that would later try and break into the American market. They cracked the code. They were parent-friendly but sensual enough to keep the tweens/teens/young adults crushing on them. Fanfiction culture was also impacted. Many forget it was a Harry Styles fanfic that made fanfic normal and somehow socially acceptable enough to come out of the shadows of fandom and be something talked about in media/out in the open. (moral of the story: don’t do them—slander won’t be tolerated)
Anyway, I was familiar with boy band fandom, the shipping, fan service, the weird pandering, etc. The only differences for me were the dancing, the odd music style, and the language. It took some time getting used to. It was so hard getting used to the cultural differences and the style of talking. The odd monologuing/sarcastic banter that’s borderline rude. It was hard to tell when people were being funny or cruel. I still have trouble with that, but years later I realize it’s cultural, but you can tell where people are coming from by their tone.
I say all this to say it was difficult adjusting. I was interested in the group and wanted to know as much about them as possible, BUT I spent so much time trying to learn everything I could, and by the time I became completely accustomed to the behavior and culture and language, I realized I didn’t even like the group that much. The music was good; at the time, the members were okay; sometimes they were funny—but not all the time. Overall, by the 2nd year of being into K-pop, I was like
IDK—it’s probably just me, but all the drama, gossip, and people caring that grown adults were dating... Like it was so odd because I grew up on J-14.
Going from everybody being super chill about their fave dating, getting married, or having babies to this
Grown adults getting in trouble with their fans... for what? Like it was just weird, and due to hive mentality, I was like coming into agreement with it and thinking, Oh, that’s just how things are over there... like, no." It’s not right. Just so many things were weird, but I said nothing because I didn’t want to be the odd one out.
Cause don’t get me wrong, everybody watches E! news and celeb gossip, and that’s not our business either, but that’s out in the open; that that’s people telling you this is my person, and I am dating them. Yeah, sure, some of it is fake, but it’s openly fake. This is odd because even though these dispatch couples were revealed, they don’t go places together or do interviews talking about one another. There’s a layer of shame because idols are dolls who are ‘dating’ their fans.
Now I won’t judge; all I’ll say is I got a lot of evidence suggesting this is gonna lead to an AI pixel perfect.
turned horror movie;
(mobile boyfriend 2009)
where there are apps where you can see, talk to, and text an AI version of your favorite idol
where you can have a fake version of your idol in your phone, but plot twist: it's a demon... Anyway, I’m getting off track; that’s another thread. The point is stuff was getting weird; I was slowly backing away and just distancing myself, but a few things were keeping me from dropping K-pop and just focusing on school and other stuff. One, like many women, once you invest emotionally into something, it’s hard to leave; two, I was a tad bit concerned about Kai; he was injured around that time.
and I felt bad about dropping the group because usually when I drop something, it’s for good. I may check up on it out of curiosity, but I will never care (like really care) ever again. So I was teetering.
Eventually I just gave up and decided my mental health and having my head on straight was better than being in a cult.
Long story short, around 2021ish I was like, What’s been going on?" I just went on a journey and became more aware, so somehow I came back to K-pop. To make a long story short.
So when I saw Kai’s face for the first time in a long time, I didn’t really notice anything too different. Slightly, but I thought maybe it was just aging, plastic surgery, fillers; I really didn’t know, but something was off.
So I started looking at his photos, and at this point he had released a lot of his old childhood photos. And again it wasn’t too drastic, but I’m not normal; I was looking hard.
Now, a disclaimer: this isn’t proof of anything; it’s just stuff I notice. I talk a lot, but it’s just brain ideas coming out to breathe. It’s more so just to make people see a different perspective. Use your creativity. Life is as interesting as you make it.
So when I started looking at the photos, I first paid attention to the thing that, if different, couldn’t be a coincidence; there’s no way these body parts can just change over time or with p.s. That means the face can be used but only sort of. Plastic surgery can change a lot, but upkeep changes more than the initial surgery. No surgery equals perfection, and after the surgery, minor surgeries afterwards are necessary. So it’s necessary to look at childhood photos to understand the initial facial structure (which can change but only so much); they more so develop or morph, elongate, etc., but only so much. I’d say like 90 percent of the time, most people can recognize someone from child to adult by the small features: the way they smile, or the way their teeth look, or their ears, or their eye shape. Plastic surgery is... it’s a thing, but as long as it’s not total facial reconstruction, it’s a nonfactor. You can usually tell what’s unnatural by looking at childhood photos.
Anyway, I looked and looked and looked, and I don’t know for sure now because it’s been a while since I’ve even considered this, but I trust my notes, and I remember I took a lot of notes, and it is one of the only theories I’ve given my golden stamp of approval. This is why I’m talking so much in the buildup. This isn’t some joke. I’m not saying it’s true, but I did work hard on it. If I could find my old notes, I’d copy and paste it, but it’d take me all day to look for it.
Okay. The theory. Twins.
Ahh, okay, I’m kinda excited it’s been so long. Okay. So I think what I thought was that it was a pair of fraternal twins. The reason why I said fraternal and identical is in theory if this is two people pretending to be one person...they don’t even look that much alike. They feature one another a lot but it’s not mirror twins which is odd because you’d think if an entertainment company was to pull one over and have a pair of twins play a single person they’d go for a parent trap deal
Theoretically, I thought maybe it was more of a Mary-kay and Ashley type of situation
who are not identical; they are fraternal. They just look extremely alike. How do people tell them apart? Well, now they look different because of different external stimuli that have an affect on appearance, but back when they used to look more alike, just watching their movies year after year it’s quite clear do to vocal tone, mannerisms, and behavior that they are two different people. It simply takes observation.
I have to sadly make a list because it’ll be too unorganized otherwise.
First I’ll put physical characteristics that are definite and most consistent. Meaning you can see the physical traits in childhood, adolescence, and adulthood.
Uneven ears:
Baby—toddler
Childhood / adolescence
Adulthood
Now adulthood is very tricky because the adult bone structure set in at around 16-18, and the cheekbone and skull make the ears appear small when really they are probably normal-sized; he just has a big head. So I’m just going to show the ears, both left and right, at an angle because it’s pretty much impossible to see them when he’s staring straight ahead. P.S. I don’t know what’s digitally edited or not, so I prefer candid pics, but it’s not good quality to see the details of the ear, so... it’s so-so. But ear prints, like fingerprints, may be similar for identical twins, but they’re not identical.
To be continued.
Personally I don't like the racebending in the show and I feel like in an effort to be more diverse they just added in a multitude of more problematic things, like the underlying implications of two mulatto people in New orleans who would be 'free' but now are owned by a vampire master who likeable or not is still controlling them in some way and prohibiting them from true freedom.
Like if that was the intention to make it more thought provoking cool, but I wonder if they understand the audience mainly being full of people who are more excited to see hookups between the two main character than put forth much deeper thought to the dynamic between louis and lestat in a more analytical way. That is truly horror, and maybe that was the intention but in this day and time I think the fandom culture is quicker to be happy about poc's in such a popular show than think of all the problematic themes in the vampire chronicles.
I don't mean problematic in the way most people do, like they should apologize or cancel the show, no on the contrary, I am glad the show is unapologetic in a way, the burden falls more on the viewer to see the deeper message being put in the story.
I feel like personally I will just keep my own thought and character castings to myself because I'm a total perfectionist with that sort of thing. I love realms of atlantis which everybody hates, and I have a 2 billion dollar budget in my head for that book that I don't think will ever be matched by any studio. But yeah, I never even watched the show but I wanted to say this cause I do like a few of the vc's books. Lestat to me is the best character but it's like nobody can get him right, tom cruise did a good job but still not quite lestat is such a rare character that's been crafted so spectacularly I don't think a live action version in this era...could ever do him justice, it's either too masculine or too modern day pretty boy like I just can't figure out how he's supposed to look in a way that would be timeless.
Also with people confusion on why the vamps male at least regardless of all the tension never get together in that way..... I don't know I think it's artistic preference, after writing fiction myself I completely get it now. There are some stories certain things just don't happen. Like idk. I don't think it's that deep. It's' like how on some tv shows the parents never kiss but on others they do. Writers at times just write what comes to them.
Also it's very likely that anne saw lestat and louis as a different alternative version of herself and her husband, in a way, not completely, so maybe she didn't feel comfortable writing super passionate scenes like that with them.
I really don't know cause lestat did get with women...so like seriously I don't know.
That's very interesting. It's possible that she didn't want to say it or there wasn't terminology for this back then but maybe the character weren't actually into guys, weird with all the tension, but it's possible the male vamps had a more animal like dominant submissive thing going on which isn't necessarily as humans put it romantic.
(Which is another thing I think the network screwed up on but I get it seeing that they are concerned about viewership. Which is the entire reason they have a business in the first place.)
It's completely different. Which is a part of the reason why I liked the book it used predictable themes and taboo's but didn't go about it in the way you'd expect. It makes them more real to me. People are hardly ever predictable.
creddie will never be canon to me, I don’t care
I usually use google docs but since I have learned the art of sharing from now on I’ll put my drafts here. I don’t want to confuse anyone this isn’t a fandom blog at all. If I reference anything that belongs to any fandom it’s simply because I happened to do research on it. So if I talk about like bananna’s and you’re with the bananna fandom don’t follow cause you think oh good bananna discussion going on here. I just want to be transparent. Honestly I am pretty ecletic in my tastes but specific. I will talk about a specific character or show or book or movie or maybe even a person but its just because it peaked my interest. I drop things very coldly without any guilt if I feel like it’s not that deep anymore or a waste of time. I’m also really blunt and honest. And looking at my history I just want to make things clear from the get go. If I say anything offensive or rude I aplogize because I’m a person and I don’t want anyone to be hurt by words. That being said I talk a lot so if I say something super rude I might not even remember I said it but I most likely meant it. I leave other people and their opinons alone most of the time when I don’t agree with them but I don’t mind a debate. So yeah that’s pretty much it so always refer back to this if I ever say anything and it’s like *gasp*. But I’m generally nice though it’s just sometimes I get a wee bit heated if it’s like a moral issue.
To all the exo ls that let this fly
like it's so crazy how nobody needs to work hard to expose s.m because they seem to do a great job of it themselves.
Really crazy work how the same manager got moved out the group and sent to china after all the photos and vids of the inappropriate behavior with the members. Like people do know he was like 13 when he joined the company correct, like all the sus moments with the members and the staff that knew them since childhood are crazy. Like insane. This is why I never wanna here any big happy family comments about him cause I just know it isn't true. If any parent had half an inch of care about their child they wouldn't put them in this situation but at the very least they would attempt to get them out. Tao and Kris's mom and dad fought for them to go free. I'm assuming Luhan same thing. Like given how young he was, like nah no way and then he was marketed for noona's as a teen. He was in charge of sexiness at 17.....nope nope nope. They are so slick trying to wait for him to turn 18 to let him outside and begin acting super erotic. Like he wasn't in the practice room for years with staff trying to perfect it. Living in a dorm with 30 other dudes for years as a child. Went through puberty surrounded by a bunch of grown adults without any supervision. I love how everyone loves his sexiness but fail to realize he adopted that persona when he was a child, but people are so concerned about the kids in kpop apparently not. He has no boundaries cause he was never given any. He literally thought this was normal.
And they are still trying to recruit kids and this time they are targeting third world countries, I really hope they know hell and prison are real places. On god if lsm doesn't leave these kids alone I hope
the powers that be give him the kitagawa treatment
No parent should ever have their child at a dorm with a bunch of grown men, EVER I don't care what s.m promised him!
kai grabbing a fistful of the manager noona’s hair…
The fact that people thought he was joking says a lot....he wasn't joking he was trynna say something.
why.. is he like this..?