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hi :) i hope you’re having a wonderful day

you’re literally the only blogger i trust when it comes to non-duality, and your advice has been the one i’ve been most easily able to apply/understand. I hope this doesn’t come off as a vent, but it probably will just because this question is so complicated and problem riddled, and tbh idek if you’re actually going to respond, but yea. it’s like star wars you’re my obi wan kenobi! my last hope lol

basically i’ve put my life on hold and procrastinated everything i’ve needed to do. (TW: death?? health problems/sa?) I went through a really bad year, last year. the human character i identify with (non-dualistic terms, bc ik this character isn’t me?) was sa’d in the beginning of the year. really traumatic. i dropped out of school, i couldn’t go out of the house because i feared for my life. i became super paranoid. i reported it and filed charges, but the justice system is fucked so.

anyways, after because the amount of stress i was experiencing, i became very ill. my biological father wished death on me, and i believed it at the time, because my sibling wished for me to get raped, and then it happened. i can see now, how my belief may or may not have been the cause of what happened. i then got cancer. the doctors couldn’t figure it out for months, and even ridiculed me- saying how i relied on google.

i finally went to a specialist who was immediately concerned, and then confirmed my suspicions. i was sort of friends with a blogger on here who got into the void and manifested their dream life. they went into the void for me and affirmed that i no longer had cancer, and that i could tap/wake up in the void. the next day, the huge lump/tumor on my neck was gone. all of my ailments- trouble breathing, patchy and rough skin ceased. i literally told my mother what happened which made her start believing in the power of “manifestation”.

because of the paranoia, and then cancer- i didn’t go to school my last 2 years of school. i switched to online, but never felt the need to complete my classes because i knew i would get into the void. i’ve gotten into the void, both by waking up/tapping into it but i haven’t been able to change my awareness, or “manifest” bc i was just mumbo jumbing words or poetry. i didn’t apply to university, because i thought i’d enter the void before then and revise my school grades + make it so i got into the university of my choice.

now, i have a week left before i have to finish my classes- which i have 7 of them, and so many assignments. i have to move out in the middle of august because i lied to my parents and said i got into university, because i thought i would’ve already changed things with the void by now. my life was fucked, then i fucked my life. after discovering non-duality i gained hope that i would be able to turn things around by now, yet i haven’t. i don’t know what i’m doing wrong, because i was able to show myself the truth of reality (as lester levinson said).

i am really stressing because now everything is falling down on itself. i try to forget my problems, and don’t give them life by letting go, yet it’s so hard when teachers are bombarding me with messages how i have to finish the classes, or how i have to move out soon. i know this is probably ego driven, but i feel as if i can’t see a way through because of how attached i am to this. my health has also been abnormal, which makes me fear that the cancer has returned. what should i do?? im kinda freaking out.

anyways, i am so sorry if this came across trauma dumping/venting. i am just at a point where i do not even know where to begin to conceptualize this into understanding. this took a lot of courage to type, as im a bit afraid still- that people who hurt me from last year will see this (even though i know they won’t, but still). i totally understand if you wish not to post this or answer it, as it is very long and limiting. thank you though! i hope you have a wonderful week:)

this was quite difficult to answer as i've never been through so much turmoil all at once. i hope this answer helps and you'll continue taking care of yourself! (i'm sorry i linked way too much lol just don't read it all at once!)

firstly i want you to rest.

you've been through a lot and you've also been putting off a lot to get into the void. stopping life for manifestation is common it seems, its not healthy either. so much pressure is coming from time. you put all your expectations on a method, and i'm gonna guess that you also put so much onto your mind to get you into the void.

practically: your biological father sounds abusive and so does your sibling, i would be more careful around him. idk if your not around him anymore, it sounds like it? but you need to plan accordingly for your lie. are you gonna tell your parents or ?

theres a massive chance you'll just go crazy trying to figure out all these moving parts, so i suggest do what you can and leave the rest. do the minimum to keep you safe, then figure out the rest as it comes. do whatever you need to do, just remember to not take on too much at once.

ask for breaks on work at school for medical reasons, maybe think about jobs, etc. you see how much more could come into the picture? but this is all the body-mind can do. its easy to treat it as god, but its not god.

"but i feel as if i can’t see a way through"

You fail to do the works of God, because you take the body to be God. - Ada B. [4dbarbie]

take a look at these meditations:

butter meditation

peace meditation

surrender meditation

un-identification exercise

crying meditation

i'd like you pick one of these exercises:

feel all the shit. feel bad. just do it. let all the bad feelings out. put on sad music and fucking cry. cry it all out.

let yourself rest, with no problems. if a thought or feeling comes in just let it, because its not a problem remember? :) just put on some calming music or visualise a calming place. and let yourself have some time with nothing. no conditions. no perfection. no obligations. no 'have to' 'should' 'must'. let that go for this time

feel as if you've died. feel as if you've been completely forgiven, feel as if there was a powerful white light that washed you away of all the crap. really feel as if the divine came down, hugged you and said 'i love you and forgive you'. its all over. finally its all done. you can rest. (i suggest kickstarting this with imagery or music, its hard to generate feeling such grace on you own. i saw a jesus holding a baby lamb picture that made me burst out in tears and realised that all i wanted was just to be, no obligations. i imagined waking up in a heaven, in a gaint flowerfield. do what you want)

one time i did the 1st and 3rd exercises (i made it up on the spot) and it was worth it. the next few days felt much better. its like an exercise in rebirth. let yourself be reborn.

some days you'll just do one or all 3. pick what ever feels right in what ever order. but i suggest that 'feel as if you've died' or 'no problems' comes last! the whole point is to let the painful emotion pass through and settle in a neutral or grateful place.

"after discovering non-duality i gained hope that i would be able to turn things around by now"

here's the problem, you went into a philosophy intending to manifest. yes,, (1) you can do that (2) its okay, AS LONG AS YOU DONT MISS THE POINT. the point being that there is no person! the character is a character, not you. manifestation is just another concept, you can use it as long as you understand that its not real. thats why i shared the BOOKS, you need to READ.

"i try to forget my problems, and don’t give them life by letting go"

don't force yourself to forget (don't say you're not forcing it, otherwise you never would of wrote "TRY"). just let them be. deal with it when it comes up. the mind'll want to make a bazillion plans and stress. if you can make plans without spiriling, then do it. if you can't, don't. there will probably be some things you need to plan and thats okay. but everything else, leave it.

you haven't actually let it go, you're here in my inbox. you do not need to force letting it go. you naturally let it go by realising who you are in relation to it all. if you think you're the body-mind then its impossible to let go, because its your life and it involves you and if you let it go to shit, you might die!! - says the mind. but if you're Self, then this is not you. all those stories mean nothing compared to Infinity, Absolute Perfection and Love!

the Self is who you truly are. Self is still underneath it all, it is all. its imagining itself being a human. the character is the wave, YOU are the ocean. ultimately this is about realising all the identities, images and roles that "you've" taken on and used as reference are not you. how can a story be you? how can the past be you? are you the past? are you currently living in the past? you can be if you keep bringing it into the now.

when you stop using the past as a reference point, how much more posibilities come up now?

this is because the mind only knows what it knows. it cannot know anything more than what it knows right now. it can't access infinite intelligence. that's why it'll try to project into the future, and make plans. but it doesn't truly know. all it does is give suggestions based off the past. it is a combination of identity based off feelings, thoughts and memories that is collected and turned into a habit.

the past, memories, feelings, thoughts, identifies, roles etc all pass through you. they all come up like waves and then leave on THEIR OWN. if you hold onto these (which the character wants to do, it thinks thats all it is) it'll be painful when they are threatened in some way. a simple remark of "oh you look xxx" can be so painful for some characters because they based their whole life on a singular identity that WILL go.

Most of you can't change because you are so desperate TO change... but there is nothing to want to change. Things just are. Don't work with changing self, just realize who self actually is. [4dbarbie]

this is not a forcing thing, its just a rememberance. its done out of love, passion, a desire to just be free! with no ties to whatever identity! its takes courage, not convincing or denial.

Disbelieving you are Vanessa and denial are not the same thing. Denial is when you deny reality to something you're already giving reality to. Disbelieving was meant as an experiment, you never thought yourselves to be anything but this body, what will happen if you did? What are changes in your psyche, do you feel more confident, do you feel like you could take on the world? Don't you love Vanessa now that you know that she always was a choice? Even if she wasn't the greatest, what's so wrong with her? She is just somebody, she just lives a life. Things are only so serious when you're identified with her, you get scared, you get hurt, you feel stuck. But when you know that she can't hinder you? That she was never you? Don't you just want to laugh and hug her? [4dbarbie]

are you sure you're reading books and posts? a lot of this is already answered. your case is just more to deal with, but the point is still the same: you are not the body and mind, see what would happen if you questioned them.

just KEEP IT SIMPLE!

i'd like to leave you with this.

Once a young woman came to Hafiz and said, “What is the sign of someone knowing God?” And Hafiz became very quiet and stood in silence for nearly a minute. Lovingly looking deep into the young woman's eyes, he then softly spoke: “My dear, they have dropped the knife. The person who knows God has dropped the cruel knife so often used upon their tender self and others.” [source]

some extra resources

eft - health fear

eft - afraid to feel

we cannot practice letting go

heart of an emotion

i want to wake up with everything

hafiz - love's victory (PLEASE WATCH IT)

trust yourself

"You think you're doing it all for nothing, that's why you don't do it. But is freedom from pain really nothing? At least you are, for once in your life, sighing from relief from all this never-ending sense of doing."

health anon

apply

"All the process requires is letting go of thinking you are Vanessa."

behaviour

letting thoughts and emotions pass

challenge yourself

stories

everything brings you back to your Self

you've been through a lot and i'm glad you still are full of love! otherwise you never would've tried in the first place to change anything. use that love, take any anger and turn it into love for freedom! for Self! i know you can do it!!

also: the feeling of bad health coming back is a sign to me. you've put so much on hold: your healing from the sa, the healing from your family, the lying, LIFE in general. you can't keep doing that. turn inwards. the fear won't consume you.

hey ada i need advice, i want to create me waking up to my ideal life ive been through the law of assumption and everything like that and am learning how to drop that there is something to get but whenever i would wake up and still see something undesirable i would attempt to change my consciousness and remind myself i am that of which i want to be but its only a temporary relief, i know i control/decide everything by being aware, do you have any tips for paying the the things you dont want any mind?

I don't like repetition, it keeps you in lack. Do you need to remind yourself that you are a man or a woman?

My tip is to realize your self, have enough courage to face Vanessa's fears. See how unnecessary is to pay them any mind at all.

After you realize yourself any bold assertion does it. There's no time delay.

There was one person which got mad I blocked them because they corrected me in the comments when I said that unbotherdness comes first and said there was no reason for the scale of emotions I shared. I won't stand for any spreading of misinformation on this page. It's impossible for indifference not to come when you see you aren't that. When you see the desires and fears aren't yours. This is not an opinion, this is what happens when you do it. You get uninterested naturally.

Act like this, and from this. That's my only tip. Let go of thinking you are this little helpless thing already.

“Do I need to undo conditioning / limiting beliefs, you can’t deny we went through shit and are affected by it”

Conditioning is a human made concept. What conditioning is there to be undone when you are not human and there is no past.

E.g. If you grew up without money and would like to bring money into your life and have “limiting beliefs” about money there is actually nothing to be done about them.

Why? Because they are nonexistent and have no value or meaning or power. You give them power by assuming they are an actual power holding you back and you must get rid of them or change them.

This is how powerful you are, you can fool yourself like this.

But you are not human and there is no past.

You can only assume there’s something to be done for a “physical” situation from the perspective of a “physical” human being.

But we all know there is no tangible physical. Even in science they say you can only see about 1% of your visual field. Whether you are a logical “realist”, religious, etc there are signs everywhere that this “physical / real” reality is not as real as you think it is.

It’s energy / God / awareness whatever you want to call it in form. It’s merely a hallucination.

I say whatever you want to call it because this power is so ineffable, it’s unknown, it’s so powerful.

Beyond what you can grasp.

And anything is possible in the unknown. How can you say something is impossible 😂 honestly how laughable.

You are that ineffable God / infinity / universe / consciousness.

Pure miracle.

Tell me now what “limiting beliefs” or “conditioning” you have when you are not human and there is no time.

Stop these complications, meaningless labels, false pretences.

Facing yourself and asking questions, or coming to a natural observation / understanding of this. It is up to you.

And then realise this is all a game to remember yourself.

This shouldn’t feel forced, it’s not hard work, it’s not unnatural.

It’s natural because it’s pure flow. It’s your nature of being.

It’s this ineffable infinite powerful existence.

Now that you know you're not a solid person, do you just go with whatever pops up in mind? I imagine the effect of experiencing doesn't change much, other than feeling unconditional freedom? Does sadness even come up in an extensive way at this point?

Who feels "unconditional freedom"?

What you're asking still assumes there's a “me” who now operates differently because something was "realized" — but there was never a "me" to begin with.

Whether a thought arises, or sadness passes through, none of that was ever “mine” or “not mine” to begin with. So no, it’s not about “following whatever pops up” or “never feeling sad again.” It’s just not personal anymore. There’s no one trying to manage it.

So if sadness arises, it arises — but it’s not happening to someone, and it doesn’t need to be held onto or avoided. It just moves through like anything else, without a story around it.

I could go on to explain what “it” is — awareness, presence, whatever word you like — but none of that ever reallycaptures it. The mind tries to grasp it by asking more and more, but it’s not something that gets clearer with extra thinking. The answer can be shared, sure — but it’s never truly understood unless it's seen directly, not as a concept, but as what’s already here before thought even begins.

if you do not identify with failure then nothing can go wrong

need i say more? no, not really but of course i will say more.

identifying with failure is the cause of failure. when you wake up from a shifting attempt and are still in your current, undesired reality, the automatic reaction for some is to admit defeat and accept that you failed. yet, the most successful people are the ones who do not accept failure. it is simply not an option that exists in their stratosphere so remove it from yours.

"will she ever lose?" man, i guess we'll never know - nosebleeds, doechii

this is the mindset we all must adopt. if you know that you cannot fail, that means that nothing can go wrong. it means you do not have to do anything, it will happen on it's own because above all else you will persevere and succeed.

this applies to manifestation as well, not just shifting because this is how life works.

you do not need to live by the auto-assigned rules of this reality. do not take what you are processing with your five senses as an unrefusable fact, you decide what's fact or not. dare to assume success when you would normally assume failure.

every moment is being spent in the reality that you want, no matter what. only accept that and nothing else. no matter what you do, say, or think YOU ARE THERE.

try this out for a week or two. whenever you start to think you are failing or might have already failed, stop yourself and remember that failure is no longer an option so what's there to worry about? stop using effort, trying a billion different methods, and worrying about time while doing this and solely focus on knowing you are always successful in your endeavors but make sure to be gentle with yourself though, this isn't a witch hunt. even if nothing seems like it's changed, it has. you have changed and that's all that needs to change in order to succeed because everything comes from you. this is an amazing foundation to have, you are gaining confidence and acting with brazen impudence.

"maybe next time it'll work? ugh, this is so hard. when will it happen? how long does it take to shift? can this be manifested?" girl, drop it. you've won, chill. how can you fail when you've already gotten first place? let's stop pitying ourselves.

remember that motivation is fickle but discipline is forever, keep your head up baby. you got this i love you! my asks are open if you need help and i'm doing this with you, you're not alone <3

hiii omg am i glad that you’ve turned on your asks again!! i hope you aren’t feeling too overwhelmed with this blog/asks, you’re doing such a wonderful job!!

i’m this anon, btw :) https://www.tumblr.com/adadisciple/724563337217736704/hi-im-this-anon

i’ve got some more “success’s”!! as i stated in my last ask, i could potentially have some brain damage- but that’s only “true” if i identify with it. anywaysss, my memory isn’t the best so i wrote down a list of sorts, and conducted a little “experiment”.

before i did that however, i was able to get my desired body!! i also cleared up my skin, which took a turn after the whole cancer thing. i don’t want to get into details, but since the cancer affected my lymph nodes- it made it’s way to my skin, which “manifested” in hyper pigmentation , rashes, scabs, etc. it was just horrible. even after the cancer was “healed”, i was left with scarring on my skin- and tbh it just looked horrible. i didn’t really feel confident to wear shorts outside anymore. tbh, i wasn’t really attached to this body or it’s skin, so i decided to change it for funsies. i remembered who i truly was- Self. i just decided i had my desired body- kinda imagined it but just once- and that my skin was clear. i let it go, tbh i think that was the only time i thought about it till the next day, when my skin was literally so clear.

all the dark spots and problems seemed to disappear overnight, i even had some scabs that went away. i also lost my ability to rlly eat- or want to eat during the cancer period, so i kinda lost my natural shape. the same day my skin changed, my body reverted to how i wanted it to be. afterwards, i realized how little i thought of what i used to be insecure about- when i had the “desirable.” for example, with my skin, i didn’t think of how horrible all the scabs looked, i didn’t even think about how clear it was. i just knew, and it was normalized.

regarding the experiment, i made a list of things i wanted to occur- but wrote down how i did it- or what steps i took. i did 4:

receiving a text

getting a hug (tbh random lol but i love hugs)

revising the house i live in ac being always cold, and set to 73.

and then.. for you to have your asks on again!!

they all worked- and i wrote on my notebook that they would occur before the day was over. for the hug and ac, i wrote how it was ok for me to seek, think, worry, or obsess over it- because i knew mySelf to be Self- and none of my characters actions could hinder me. the hug and ac happened before i went to sleep. for the text and asks, it happened today. there’s no use in making sense of it- but to be a hypocrite, i would think they happened the next day because i felt it was essential to feel indifference. but when you know yourSelf to be Self- there really isn’t any essential steps to take, or anything that can stop you.

i feel as if i am a child again, im always giddy when i marvel at my true Self. it’s so amazing, and a complete total 180 or even 360 from when i first sent my ask to Lain. I even got into the void last night, completely aware of it, and was able to affirm for some things! I kept “waking up” in it, throughout the night. I genuinely have no worries anymore, and it’s so refreshing that I am in tears typing this. I know you must be overworked between this blog, and just the everyday forces of life- but truly it is people/blogs like you, who help others completely turn their lives around!! Thank you so much, all of your kindness, and aid will surely be returned tenfold <3

WOOWAA SO HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN!!

@lains-reality your anon!!

Ahh I wish this would be the only thing my asks ever saw :')) life is truly this wonderful and easy ♡

"and then.. for you to have your asks on again!!"

Not you controlling Sofia like a puppet, this is really your world fr 😌

Jokes aside, you can see we really are all one.

Key points from their process for everyone:

afterwards, i realized how little i thought of what i used to be insecure about- when i had the “desirable.”

i just knew, and it was normalized.

for the hug and ac, i wrote how it was ok for me to seek, think, worry, or obsess over it- because I knew mySelf to be Self- and none of my character's actions could hinder me.

but to be a hypocrite, i would think they happened the next day because i felt it was essential to feel indifference.

but when you know yourSelf to be Self - there really isn’t any essential steps to take, or anything that can stop you.

Thank you for coming back to us, you're so sweet for helping others by documenting as well ♡

This is the better quality uncut cut scene from episode six, lol

Hello💕

To not make this ask even longer, i am not gonna explain my background a lot, but in short i have been in the metaphysics community for years now (time is an illusion, shifting, manifestation, loa,..), and recently around half a year ago i found out about void tumblr, huge success stories, and manifesting lists and waking up with all your desires the next day, etc.. (but i still don’t have huge success stories of mine yet, eg: manifesting out of thin air, dream life, shifting, void, etc..). 

I read through all of your posts and asks (i found your blog around 2 weeks ago or less). 

My question is, from your expertise, what makes others who don’t know about non-dualism succeed?

We read stories about those who listened to a subliminal or theta or delta waves, SATS, affirming and persisting, being in a state of having your desire, fulfilling yourself in imagination, living in the end, losing hope & letting it all go, meditating, clearing the mind, or using sleep paralysis and staying still for hours, (and ALL other methods with different variations), and: 

There are multiple success stories for those who shifted,manifested a lot of things at once/or their whole dream life, or got into the void successfully and manifested what they wanted, etc.. 

There are other people who used the same things and didn’t succeed, or succeeded with another method of their own. 

The methods go from as easy as intending to as complex as staying still for hours in the same position & having 100% clear mind, or completely changing your sleep schedules, or even more complex.

And the duration varies from hours, to days, to weeks, or more (meaning some succeed after doing their method or intending for 1 day, or for weeks, etc..) 

So, what is actually happening? 

Is it that they successfully trained their (Vanessa) ? They successfully made her change her beliefs or become well trained in a method? 

Or is it that at some point they detached from everything and were so immersed in their (imagination/fulfilled with their thoughts) that they unknowingly applied what non-dualism is explaining (detaching from thinking you are it, and then you can identify with whatever else you want)

So they completely detach from Vanessa, and then only identify with Lara (with the understanding that what they are experiencing inside/inner man/ focusing on/their dominant thoughts/ •insert whatever beliefs• is actually what matters) and that whatever else is going on around them (Vanessa’s circumstances/life situations) is non of their business. So yah, externally they might still accomplish their tasks, but it doesn’t mean anything about their manifestations/dream life 

After all, they are only identifying with Lara.

And the time it took them to succeed was the amount of time it took them to finally be like (you know what, i am not this Vanessa person no more, I choose Lara, and that’s the only person I identify with) and they actually only identify with Lara. And because we project and experience our lives instantly (on a moment by moment as I understand from your posts) they “changed” the life they are experiencing from the moment they actually identified with something else (eg: Lara). 

Or is there any other explanation?

I find that this question is the one that stayed with me while reading any posts about non-dualism (tumblr, books, or other websites).

The: what about those who used x,y,z methods, and didn’t know half of the things about (how life works) and still did it ? (What was they key or element that made all of them succeed despite the various time that it took them to succeed and different methods they used). 

And sorry for the long ask

Thank you again 💓

Your question is so good and I can't wait to break it down!

"Although I kinda had already but maybe this will be even clearer" - me every time I make a post

I went through all those things as well, manifesting, shifting, void. I hadn't only read Neville but everyone. I love reading so I only read spiritual books for over a year, I've read from people nobody heard of, all the CIA docs I could get my hands on, everything everything. This brain is the library of all spirituality, I have journals on top of journals full of the main points of everything I thought I understood.

What makes others who don’t know about non-dualism succeed?

They've successfully convinced their egos that doing this or that will change their external life. Now egos are different, because backgrounds are different - a conditioned brain is a conditioned brain, but some may have an easier time accepting suggestions, especially if they are young, the way you learn to speak your native language when you're a child you can learn as easily to manifest with a method, because you don't know right from wrong, real from unreal, true from false - you accept what others tell you.

We read stories about those who listened to a subliminal or theta or delta waves, SATS, affirming and persisting, being in a state of having your desire, fulfilling yourself in imagination, living in the end, losing hope & letting it all go, meditating, clearing the mind, or using sleep paralysis and staying still for hours, (and ALL other methods with different variations):

I did all of those things. All. All. All xD Most successes I've had were from not caring or letting it go -- because, and I'm explaining it from the understanding I have now: I was suspending my ego. For everyone things happen when they successfully let go of believing in the old story they used to tell themselves OR they just don't care anymore about any story (accepting ego is incapacitated) and as a result the situation/problem resolves.

There are multiple success stories for those who shifted, manifested a lot of things at once/or their whole dream life, or got into the void successfully and manifested what they wanted, etc...

For some, most - the void is a made up state (they ended up believing in). Ada is a made up state, in the same way void is made up state, it's a concept.

Now, for others, few - it's "I AM", it's their real being. Some truly grasped what Neville Goddard said when he told everyone to meditate on "I AM" -- which is a REAL letting go of believing in anything outside of that. Including body. But it's few, for 99% is just a method to change 'external reality'.

*EDIT: Can you not see you're successfully doing all those things right now as well? You're crafting this world and this body perfectly and in real time. You are manifesting all of those things at once too! You're an expert at doing it!

There are other people who used the same things and didn’t succeed, or succeeded with another method of their own. 

I didn't succeed with void. It changed nothing for me because I couldn't believe I'm going to change externals even when I got in. And I can't! Because me, Ada, has no such power. Even if I lost the sense of my body I didn't lose the sense of 'who **I** was', therefore changed nothing. Of course, as you've seen, people managed to convince themselves (maybe with the countless success stories), but Ada couldn't change anything until reason agreed with her.

So, what is actually happening? Is it that they successfully trained their (Vanessa) ? They successfully made her change her beliefs or become well trained in a method?

Yes! They managed to, good for them, but you can ask anyone and they're still not satisfied, they won't be no matter how much they have in the material, the end goal is the same for everyone and that is complete freedom :) they can be satisfied for now (and incredibly happy with being Vanessa 2.0) but they'll seek again something later until they discover the something xD

Or is it that at some point they detached from everything and were so immersed in their (imagination/fulfilled with their thoughts) that they unknowingly applied what non-dualism is explaining (detaching from thinking you are it, and then you can identify with whatever else you want)

That too can be the case, but it is not the end :)

So they completely detach from Vanessa, and then only identify with Lara (with the understanding that what they are experiencing inside/inner man/ focusing on/their dominant thoughts/ •insert whatever beliefs• is actually what matters) and that whatever else is going on around them (Vanessa’s circumstances/life situations) is none of their business. So yah, externally they might still accomplish their tasks, but it doesn’t mean anything about their manifestations/dream life. After all, they are only identifying with Lara. And the time it took them to succeed was the amount of time it took them to finally be like (you know what, i am not this Vanessa person no more, I choose Lara, and that’s the only person I identify with) and they actually only identify with Lara. And because we project and experience our lives instantly (on a moment by moment as I understand from your posts) they “changed” the life they are experiencing from the moment they actually identified with something else (eg: Lara). 

Perfect explanation, see, you got it yourself!

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There is no external life, there is no need to use any methods to recondition or train your mind. It is much faster and much easier and you are hundreds times happier just letting go of the mind. To not depend on anything but everything to depend on you is a top state you can grasp with no method. All those things they do are in them and they are making them up all the time.

They successfully forget about the old man & manage to go on living like the new man. But unless you understand none of the two are real, that time is in you and not you in time, you won't have the indescribable happiness, freedom, and control you do as your Self.

You'll constantly try to change what you think is you, act in 'your' interest instead of others, continue to hurt and be hurt, experience desire and fear, have things happen without your consent.

There is nothing that is 'mirroring' you, you are either conscious of one thing or the other. You are conscious of the world, that's why there is a world. You are conscious of a body and that's why there is a body. YOU COME FIRST and not the world.

There are no others without you & the only reason there is a world in which there are things to desire is because you are conscious of a world in which you are this particular body that instead of having all the things it wants, it's lacking them. You are conscious of wanting. But there is nothing to want because before you want, YOU ARE CONSCIOUS.

Realize the root of all the concepts. After you can be conscious of being a body which has or hasn't, whatever you want whenever you want. Thought is absolute and instant. "I AM" and whatever you add to that is undeniably. You see it, you don't just daydream about it. You see what you are with no waiting for it to become natural because it is natural for the person you are identified with. Unlike manifestation, your fearlessness, happiness and freedom are now permanent and independent. Perfection follows you everywhere. It is truly like nothing else, it is not being empty but being everything, it is forever love.

How do I feel my desires? ik through methods but they don't give me the feeling?

experiment!! have fun!!! play around with your imagination!

don't just affirm "i have [my desire]" and other basic affs like those if they don't give you the feeling!

ask yourself these questions:

if i had my desire, what would i be thinking?

if i had my desire, what would i do with it?

if i had my desire, how would other people react?

what are you most excited to do "with" your desire once it reflects in your 3d?

etc

stop putting so much pressure on methods! you can affirm or visualize literally ANYTHING you want. you can manifest money by affirm "chicken" if that's what gives you the feeling of the wish fulfilled!

you don't have to concoct the perfect visualization scene that shows you with your desire, or construct the perfect affirmation. just focus on the feeling!

if you're doing methods and you can't conjure the feeling of the wish fulfilled, you're either:

a) putting too much pressure on yourself/the method

b) doing the wrong method for you

c) not allowing yourself to have fun with it

i also feel like a lot of people have it in their head that conjuring the feeling of the wish fulfilled is hard, but it's actually SO easy. do you have to feel it every time you shift to your desired state? no. but when you're imagining you have your desire, it's sooo easy to conjure it when you just allow yourself to imagine things that you want to imagine!

TOUGH LOVE. SCOLDING RATHER.

How can you ask me "How to stop identifying with something?"

You STOP?

If you're driving to New York and realize halfway that you were supposed to go to New Jersey what do you do? You stop. Change destination. Why would you still go to New York if it's not what you want?

Again, why would you add Vanessa to the "I AM" if you want to be Lara?

You ask how to stop being Vanessa - the reason you can't stop is because it's ALL YOU THINK YOU ARE.

First stop thinking you're Vanessa.

You're driving a car. "I AM" is the car. You know how to drive it because you're already driving it by being Vanessa.

Vanessa is something you add to the "I AM" and not you.

To be "I AM" you have to refuse past and future because those are of the character, Vanessa is the one with a memory/personality/habits and not you.

You are, free of any label or concept (ie. space/time) you may choose to be conscious of.

You can't stop being Vanessa while being Vanessa? It's like you're asking me "well how do you stop being Ada", I was never Ada. I choose to express myself as Ada when I want but I AM NOT Ada. You are Vanessa and that's why you can't stop being her. All your "I AM" knows is Vanessa. Undo that. You're either your Self or your ego, you can't be your infinite being while desperately hanging onto Vanessa.

HOW TO STOPPP (the fact that the answer was already up but my asks are the same... are you sure you even want it?)

Disbelieve you were ever her. See what happens.

The body and the mind are only symptoms of ignorance, of misapprehension. Behave as if you were pure awareness, bodiless and mindless, spaceless and timeless, beyond 'where' and 'when' and 'how'. Dwell on it, think of it, learn to accept its reality. Don't oppose it and deny it all the time. Keep an open mind at least. Make your mind and body express the real which is ALL and beyond all. By doing you succeed. -Nisargadatta

But you don't want to stop, you want to "get things" in the world. You struggle to get and achieve things while projecting a world full of desires. You refuse to let Vanessa go, if you did you'd have your full realization right now. Keep being Vanessa until you get sick enough. I can't sell you your Self. All you're doing is for your Self. Vanessa hurts your real being with all its limitations. She is unnecessary. You don't need her. She needs you. You don't have to do anything to her. Just see that you are NOT her. DISREGARD. SEE YOUR SELF.

What are you without all the labels?