I Think That Non Religious People Or Previous Religious People Who Have Never Looked Into Their Raised

i think that non religious people or previous religious people who have never looked into their raised religions properly from a clean mind don't know shit about them, and ive seen that more than once ! and OP proves that too ! im not entirely well versed on christianity so i'll be speaking on islam for the most part.

to preface this i dont consider myself a muslim but i honestly do not consider myself non religious either. whether people like it or not i will pick and choose religion however i like by taking the spiritual and supernatural side of the quran at value such as common practice of duas (act of worship, expressing forgiveness and gratitude to answer our requests) and words of witchcraft and djinn protection being taught in the quran since i grew up with them.

every abrahamic religion has a same set belief but all the beliefs in between are very much different. if you want to be anti religion at least get your facts right, christianity has the father, the son and holy spirit. islam has a set belief that there is only one god and the last prophet is a messenger.

"borrowed methods from the exotic west" at a certain point this becomes more about hating the middle east than it does actually criticizing the male centered ideology, religious centered way of life and intertwined misogyny that dwells within broken middle eastern families and women in houses full of hurt. if this was about that, then you would point out how islamic leaders in middle eastern countries use the paper cut words of islam to control their women, when in the quran it very much states the opposite with the one verse in surah al baqarah 256 "there is no compulsion in religion" the only time that verse is contradicted is when there is times of war. you would speak about how these self proclaimed islamist leaders are driving the christians out of their countries with hate speech, how they turn a blind eye to the countless palestinians suffering. you are allowed to critisize religion but what is the point of that when you're not well read you would also speak about how the rise of independence in woman got driven out of the middle east and why that is such a big problem for the women, especially when they are such big targets.

no stories of the prophets in christianity are the same, like the story of adam in islam blames both adam and eve for eating the fruit from the tree of immortality, god forgiving them both but telling them they will suffer drom their consequences and banishes them to earth with shaytan

do i agree with the fact that the prophet was seen as a pedophile, yes. will i say that she was a 5 year old girl, no. she (aisha ra) was 19 when her marriage was consumated (honestly quite unsettling to me guhdamn) and that is what many islamic scholars do agree on due to the second year of hijrah taking place, however since there is so much confusion between translators and narrators (and the fact that religion has always been up to interpretation) the hadith is usually considered malul (defective) because of so many inconsistencies regarding her age, the hadith is not substantial evidence of her age. and this is also backed by oxford historian joshua little who argues that her age was most likely fabricated for sectarian reasons. you can read that here (you can find a summary on reddit)

anyway if you wanna just call khadija ra his "first wife" and not even use her name, (she was so much more than just a wife) then of course you wouldn't realise that she was an extremely successful business woman managing caravan trade that she inherited from her father and ex husband and is often referred to as the mother of believers. the woman of islam are so powerful and should be viewed as such instead of people constantly focusing on the men of the religion and their impacts.

saying that the revelation that was shown to the prophet was the final chapter of christianity really shows that you have no idea about how both christianity and islam really came about and how they both differ greatly yet also interlink (shocker! this applies to every single abrahamic religion too! not one is original at all)

i dont particularly agree with religion because it contradicts itself all the time. fights misogyny with enabling misogyny ! amazing. that goes for every damn abrahamic religion,, but also contradicts itself by giving women rights and then taking another right away from them as an act of disipline (however i do like the fact that rapists are to be killed yeah i agree with that)

if you are anti religious without bias, act like it. hate on it with fact, instead of biased words. a very dear family member of mine is deeply muslim and she veils fully too simply because its a choice of hers, what i will not do is tell her that she follows a phony religion and that her veiling is rooted in misogyny and that she should leave something that she has found so much solace and peace in. shes a huge feminist and has no plans of getting married at all. in her own words "i will praise god, never a man." because yes, religion is a form of free will.

following this, what you should be trying to do is give those women who *dont* have a choice in veiling, a choice. these women should have active people they can go to for support in getting that choice, however these women fall short of that because of people like you, and the religious people who believe a choice is not there. the more these islamic leaders see that people have hate rhetoric to the people of islam, the more they will try to "protect" their women in a way they do best, submission in veil and silence of population. i have lived it i know. the other side of the coin are the people (mainly men) who force religion on the population that does not want it, due to the notion that the west is a threat (gee i wonder where that came from) these things fall more hand in hand than someone thinks. ur priority should be protecting these women and not fueling anti religious agendas that will further damage those woman that you swear you want to protect.

I speak a lot about how ironic it is that Christians that hate Islam want to be taken seriously for their faith, but I don’t think the average person understands how deep this irony goes.

For those not well read in both faiths, Islam is a nearly 99% identical copy of Christianity. Moses is Musa, Abraham is Ibrahim. Gabriel is Jibreel, Adam and Eve is Adam and Hawa. Joseph is Yousef, Job is Ayub. Ishmael is Ismael, Isaac is Ishaaq.

Same prophets, almost the exact same stories and canon. Muhammad was an illiterate shady businessman who saw Christianity for what it was, a way to control women and shut down critical thought. He aspired to be a pedophile warlord and borrowed methods from the exotic west to fulfill his goals.

His first wife was older than him. His last was a 6 year old. As he gained power through conquest after conquest, and had his “miraculous visions” of verses being revealed to him, no one could tell that nearly every line he spoke was a stuttering copy of a faith already popular in a far away land. His fellow traveling merchants could, and he was a laughingstock to them. His first scribe could and was banished for noticing his obvious plagiarism…He eventually had to switch gears and market Islam as a “final chapter” of Christianity.

So anyway, that’s why I find interfaith arguments darkly hilarious.