I have given up I’m gonna try again tomorrow but for now I’m just gonna read lemons until I fall asleep
You know, one of the fun things about looking into the subway twins in the aftermath of PLA (and as someone who tends to skip the battle subway in B&W) has been realizing just what fun characters they are. The two share one brain cell whenever they’re in a room together. Literally, speaking the same lines and doing the same actions in sync. Even when apart, they tend to gravitate to the same ideas and wants (granted, in their own ways), the same kinds of Pokemon, and fixate on the same objects. Which- yeah. They’re identical twins. That tracks.
It’s when they’re apart that the differences start to accumulate.
On one hand, you’ve got Ingo: the one with a perpetual frown on his face, wears darker clothing, and whose primary partner Pokemon is presented as the floating goth ghost chandelier: Chandelure. (Fun fact they’ve both got one- in fact the majority of their Pokemon overlap, but most media (and fanwork) depicts Chandelure as being one of Ingo’s).
At a glance, you’d expect him to be serious and formal at best- until you walk into his train at the end of the single battles and he starts cheerfully introducing himself and excitedly starts the battle, or when you beat him and he applauds your victory and cheers you on. Or in Pokemon Masters, where he’s actively distraught by the fact people have trouble reading his facial expressions and so will loudly explain how excited he is and how much he loves battling whenever he enters a room.
Even in PLA, where he’s rediscovering who he is along with everyone else, he still clearly enjoys the same hobbies- not only fights himself, but seeing other people have great battles. He’ll just straight up have a heart to heart about his personal feelings and predicament with a stranger he just met an hour ago, can’t resist a smile from a good battle, and despite the fact he’s clearly lost the light behind his eyes, is still such a friendly, helpful soul who genuinely wants to see the best in everyone. (it would be so funny to see the reactions of the PLA crew seeing normal-Ingo and what an aggressively friendly ball of sunshine he actually is. It’s just something missing from most ‘Ingo is reunited with his brother and memories’ fics).
Then on the other hand, you’ve got Emmet. The Subway Boss who drifts through life with a smile on his face, wears lighter clothing, and whose primary Pokemon is a big poofy colorful dumb looking bird whose better at running then flying. And whose most famous line (I like winning more then anything’) is one of the longest sentences he says to the player in the original game.
In contrast to his brother, Emmet speaks in clipped, factual statements. While loving his Pokemon and battling, he views his team through a very strategic lens, wanting the best, perfect combination of moves and strategies. Even when you beat him, he announces how much fun he had fighting you in the same matter-of-fact way he has of speaking (he lost. You are verrrrry strong) and ends on a very simple note that you should ‘ride the trains more often!’. In Pokemon Masters, he’s much more detail orientated then his brother, questioning the Player for all sorts of details about the location and what they look for in a good battle. He’s still very clearly excited to fight the Player, and to bring the Battle Subway to a new location, but has a very ‘there is nothing in life more important then winning’ attitude that’s just barely friendly enough to stop him from having a threatening aura. It’s also worth noting that, despite the two of them both sharing the same title, Emmet talks about how much he looks up to his brother and respects him as both a trainer and in individual.
When you fight both of them in B&W, Ingo will have a whole conversation with the player about the nature of team battles and trusting in your partner as much as you trust yourself. Emmet has a serious of short quips that are no more then three words each. We get the feeling that, where his brother has trouble expressing himself with his facial expressions and falls back onto his words so that people’ll understand him, Emmet has trouble expressing himself with his words and has learned to use his facial expression to project how excited he is outwardly- large smile, over the top gestures despite his simple sentences, a sparkle in his eye so that people are actually willing to approach him and don’t get scared off by this ultra-stern rules abiding boss at the end of a train.
When you beat them together, Emmet comments on you having a good combination and being strong, and it being a fun battle. Ingo applauds the player but also reminds them that beating the two of them was only one milestone in their life, and actively encourages them to go on to do even greater things further down the line. Emmet seems like a very here-and-now kinda guy, focusing on the life that’s in front of him, while Ingo is focused on the line ahead and what he can do now to prevent regret in the past. (Which is ironic, isn’t it?).
Also if you search up clips of the two from the B&W anime, one of the only straight clips you can find is a 30 second clip of them investigating someone (*coughteamrocketcough*) messing with the subway. In it, Ingo wants to get to solve the mystery to protect the city and the people who use the subway. Emmet focuses on holding the guilty party responsible. They also naturto run on the subway tracks, which is very important.
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NOTE: This post has no intention to aggressively or negatively affect any users. It’s a warning for the artists to take the necessary measures when dealing with the following user:
@swthedragonarist16 on Tumblr @SkeleSabiArtist on Twitter During these years, Underverse and XTale, fan-series created by me, Jael Peñaloza (a.k.a Jakei) have drawn a lot of attention in the Undertale Alternate Universe community. The motives are diverse, and I receive great amounts of support and admiration from people, who motivate me to continue with this work until the end. It hasn’t been an easy job since I’m the only one working on the animations and comics, as well as a small amount of merchandise through conventions and support from small indie businesses also formed by fans. A topic that always generates debate in this type of fandoms is the denominated “ship” or romantic pairings between original characters (OCs). sonas or fan-characters (FCs) . Some people consider it something very scandalous and silly. Others simply ignore it and let it continue, since it’s apparently not causing any kind of harm to people in real life, and artists and fanfic writers who elaborate this type of works improve their artistic abilities and can meet new friendships through the internet. Personally, I’ve never cared about people using my characters to create their own stories and playing them, their own way. I eventually learned that my fan-characters are precise of the FCs type, I’m an Undertale fan. My XTale characters aren’t original, Underverse is a crossover of other artists’ fan-characters, derived from an already existing work. Pretending they’re of my total authorship and demanding each artist or writer to follow my story’s canon or designs would be absurd and hypocritical. The magic of fandoms is to open new possibilities to explore a character or original plots more in-depth.
I was part of the creation of the Cross X Dream ship, and even though I no longer make content of it, and I’ve cut communication with Dream’s creator, this experience helped me mature even more, and use this story for my future original projects, where besides the amount of trouble this caused to both of us, I can now develop better characters inspired by what we’ve done. I kept the right to not give my opinion about it and to let people continue making works about an alternate story that they really liked, even making a better work than mine. Despite the persistent comments or forceful demands to make said story official, I withhold my right to stay silent. After all, everyone’s free to do whatever they want with fictional characters… …As long as they don’t hurt real people.
Sabi is a user who really admires XTale, especially the fan-character Cross!Sans. Like any other fan, she really appreciates him, either because of his backstory or his design. However, over time, her affection ended up turning into a self-centered, pretty harmful obsession, where several artists external to the creation of this AU were involved, where she disapproves of content that has nothing to do with her self-insert and “Cross x Sabi”, her ship which basically she considers “official”.
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- Link to full evidence and testimony from the author of the drawing.
Comment from an artist from another callout post on Tumblr warning people about Sabi’s behavior months ago.
Her extreme obsession with my character ended up in constant demands of fan-arts, art-trades, and even commissions about her relationship with a fictional character. To the point of getting to scam some artists or making wait clients for long time with vague responses, or accusing them that they are bulling her, threaten them with the words “You’ll have my blood on your hands”.
- Link to full evidence and testimony from the client- - Link to full evidence and testimony from client’s friend-
- Link to the conversation between Sabi and Artist
When an artist rejects her requests, her behavior turns from friendly to pretty passive-aggressive. A more experienced artist could simply ignore her, but unfortunately, many artists in this community suffer from anxiety or depression. With a simple comment of this kind, they can be given a hard time, and consequently, they acquire hatred towards my creation due to her behavior.
She assures she suffers from psychological issues which prevent her from properly dealing with people, but she always uses it as an excuse when being confronted, either when asking about commissions or art-trades that she never delivers, or when her attitude is questioned.
During this last year, many testimonies from people related to Sabi have come to me, and this isn’t just some complot to ruin someone’s reputation. This situation is very serious and it’s getting out of hand, all because I didn’t take the appropriate measures about it.
She doesn’t represent my work, nor the rest of my followers and the Undertale fandom.
This evidence can show what’s been going on, and that’s not counting the amount of stress and discomfort this is causing me as the creator of the XTale AU and Cross!Sans. Due to this, I finally decided to make this post to warn other artists about her behavior, and I also want to get her attention so she understands not only the harm she’s causing to other people in real life but also the harm she’s doing to herself over a fictional character.
I hate having art blocks man. (I mean does anyone enjoy it? stupid) But I hate them because it seems like every time I go through an art block my style changes. It’s an annoyance!
Anyways enjoy a cute Frisky~
Something funny I noticed the other day*
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sorry
he's just sleeping.
Here’s all the relevant Submas posts I’ve done or shared that aren’t shitposts, all in one place.
Edited to add: No, I don’t ship them. I am very much turned off by incest ships. Don’t bring that shit here, thanks.
The Submas Primer: a post I thought would be a lot shorter that explains who Ingo and Emmet are, what they do, and how the NYC Subway works
A Follow-Up To That Primer: in which an anon asked me about other subway systems in the United States - I discuss a bit more Submas information, as well as Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion
How Do We Know Ingo Has No Indoor Voice?: Because he doesn’t. It’s great. They’re actually both easily excitable nerds.
How Tall Are Ingo and Emmet, Really?: Well, I tried my best.
The Ingo In PL:A Reassurance Post: written by my friend and roommate, who has been helping me greatly by getting me height reference screenshots by having various Pokemon stand next to Ingo in that game
Iron Horse Girl: aka “why are these characters so important to you anyway?”
Submas Vs.: I use Ingo and Emmet’s Pokemon in other battle facilities.
Emmet Is Autistic As Fuck, Fight Me: I wrote this over a year ago now, and I ought to do a new one because really, both of them have a lot of autistic traits that I could point out. Emmet was just more obvious and so I wrote that.
Actually, They’re Both Autistic As Fuck, And I’ll Die On This Hill: an updated version of the first post to include both of the little nerds.
More will be added to this post as they’re written.
This is what I think, backed up by in-game evidence.
Also, let me preface this by saying that this is for those of us who want reassurance. I ask that you do not reblog this and add your theories that he won’t go home, and absolutely do not DM me your theories or headcanons as to why he won’t. I’m not interested in them, especially not from people I don’t know, and I will block you if you do this. I’m serious about this because my friend and roommate, 1863-project, made a post seeking reassurance and asking for spoilers confirming he went home, if they existed, when it leaked a few weeks ago that Ingo would be in Legends: Arceus the way he is. Instead she had strangers DMing her their theories without asking, which was rude and the exact opposite of what she’d asked for. Submas has helped both of us in different ways; neither of us wants to see Ingo trapped in Hisui. Spoilers start here.
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