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First official Young Avengers mission required some good luck kisses.
DON’T WORRY DARLING (2022) // MIDSOMMAR (2019)
i had to. it’s the circle of life.
so when does yelena finally sleeps with kate in fbau? i feel like kate would've actually cried from relief after having blue balls for MONTHS
Soooo just for clarification purposes, FB Kate tops the student population at school, but then our good ol' short queen comes along and she bends the knee? For their first time, does she try to top, Yelena laughs bet, and Kate who's never experienced this before just goes along with it? (Is this me trying to non-subtly ask for how Yelena helps Kate with her metaphorical blue balls? Why yes, yes it is.)
You guys get a two-for-one answer below. All 2.6k words worth of an answer lol.
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Fast forward OVER THREE WEEKS after the party. They're technically, officially dating and their make-outs get heavy to the point where they end up tumbling onto the bed but in the end, Yelena always ends their time abruptly like "Thanks for playing, sport. Bye bye now!"
Kate is ruining boxers on the daily lol. By now, whenever she leaves Yelena's apartment or whenever Yelena leaves hers, Kate is like:
But, frankly, Yelena is just as desperate. Kate leaves and you can hear the immediate buzzing of the vibrator three blocks down. It's all a test. She needs to know Kate isn't in it for a quick lay and then going to bail. She's making sure Kate isn't going to be like "Well fuck this. This isn't worth it. I'm just going to go back to one of my hook ups". Yet every day Kate sticks it out like a champ, no matter how hard Yelena makes it for her.
A certain morning, Kate surprises her girl by showing up at her place with coffee and pastries. Yelena is still in the shower. When Yelena gets out she sees the text that Kate is outside and she tells her roommate to let her in. She initially tells Kate to wait in the living room but then she's like 😈 and pops her head out the door.
"Hey, Bishop!"
Yelena cracks the door open and calls from her bedroom.
"Yeah?!"
Kate is sitting out on the couch scrolling through her phone.
"Where's that coffee I was promised?!"
"Here!"
"Why is it not in my hand?!"
"Oh! Coming!" Kate jumps to her feet and heads for Yelena's bedroom. "They didn't have the tart you loved last time but they did have this guava pastry thing I've had before and I go..."
Kate has two coffees and a box of pastries so she is talking, carrying shit, and is focusing on pushing the cracked door open with her foot without dropping anything thus when she walks into the room and comes across Yelena in a bra without a shirt on she just......spazzes. Imagine seeing someone physically and mentally short-circuit. That's exactly what happened to Kate. It's like *record scratch, freeze frame* moment of her at the door.
Yelena put pants on but she dug up one of the hottest little bras she could and threw it on then decided to torture Kate a bit.
"Am I getting that coffee or not?"
Yelena is casually drying her hair with a towel as if nothing is happening.
"Coffee! Yes! Magical bean juice. Haha! Wake up elixir." Kate awkwardly closes the distance and juggles to hand her one of the coffees without dropping everything else. "The legal go go drug."
Kate literally has no clue what to do with herself. With Yelena this close, Kate's eyes are hysterically wandering around the room, looking EVERYWHERE but at the blonde. She's trying to be sooooo respectful and not stare. Yelena has to keep it together and not laugh.
Yelena grabs the cup and takes a sip. She 'hmmmms', and purposefully does it an ounce more sensually than she should just to watch Kate squirm. Which she does. Oh, she squirms.
"It's good."
"Uhum..."
Kate can barely get out. Yelena grabs Kate's face, places a soft kiss on her lips, and whispers.
"Thanks for coffee."
"Yeah. Totally. Yes. Anytime."
Yelena then swiftly grabs the box, places it on her desk, and opens it to inspect it.
"What's this thing about pastries you were saying?"
"Oh...uhm...they were...uh...out of the...the thing you liked...so I got another thing. Different kind. Good kind. Tasty...kind. Uhum."
Kate couldn't solve basic arithmetic right now if you put a gun to her head. Yelena picks up one of the pastries and takes a bite. She ‘hmmmmms' again. Kate's knees wobble.
"Did you try these?"
Kate vigorously shakes her head no. Yelena walks over to her with the half bitten pastry in hand. She backs Kate onto the bed then straddles her.
"Open."
Yelena tells Kate softly while placing the pastry against her lips. Kate doesn't hesitate to follow instructions. She parts her lips and takes a bite.
"Good, isn't it?"
"Yeah. It's great. So good. Should've gotten a few dozen more. Definitely going back. For sure. Wow. Great stuff. Yeah."
Kate speaks with her mouth full and crumbs from the flaky pastry fly everywhere. It's the least sexy thing she's probably every done. Yelena smiles and chuckles.
"I had a feeling."
Yelena places a kiss on Kate's cheek then kisses her way down to her pulse point. Kate leans her head to the side giving her more access. The moment she does Yelena removes herself from Kate's lap and takes another bite of the pastry as she walks to her closet.
Kate shamelessly whines at being left in this position for the millionth time in the last few weeks. Yelena eats the last of the pastry while rifling through for a shirt then buttons it up while chewing. She hastily grabs her bag, the coffee cup, and an extra pastry from the box. She rushes to where she left Kate and places a kiss on her lips.
"I have to go to the lab."
"Right now?!"
"Right now."
Kate tries to pull Yelena back onto her lap and Yelena initially resists but relents after the second attempt.
"Fifteen minutes."
Kate kisses Yelena.
"I have to go."
Another kiss.
"Ten."
Another kiss.
"Work to do."
One more kiss.
"Five."
A final kiss.
"You're such a bad influence."
"I don't think I ever mischaracterized myself as anything but."
Yelena laughs and initiates the kiss this time.
"True............You're staring."
"Am I?" Yelena nods. "You're super fucking hot. That's all."
"You're saying that because you're dying to find out if the underwear matches the bra."
Kate laughs.
"I'm not. I mean.......I kinda really am BUT...you're beautiful...sexy bra or not."
"See? It's all about the lingerie."
"WHAT?! It's sexy. You bought it for a reason! You know it is. Don't pretend you don't."
Yelena places a string of soft kisses on Kate's lips.
"I have to go."
"Fuck it! Let's drop out. Who needs a degree? You're a genius anyway."
Yelena chortles.
"Yeah, and do what instead? Have sex all day?" They both tense up. Yelena clears her throat, promptly stands, and heads for the door but before she exits she throws one final glimpse back at the girl she's leaving behind on her bed. "See you tonight? I can come over when I'm done. I'll text you."
"Sure. Yeah. I'm training until late but we can figure it out." Kate falls back onto the bed with a huff. "HAVE A GOOD DAY!"
Kate thinks to scream but by the time she does she hears the front door slam shut. No way Yelena heard it.
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Unlike Yelena, Kate lives alone. One of the few perks of having rich, emotionally detached parents is they'll pay for your rent and won't ask questions. Roommates get in the way of hook ups and Kate loved those so...she has a nice enough one bedroom. It wasn't a crazyyyyy one bedroom overlooking Central Park or anything. Just one of those semi-recently built, one bedrooms in a trendy street that got gentrified.
Kate lives much closer to campus than Yelena does and training ran late so Yelena decides to wait for Kate at one of the bars around her apartment instead of going to her place then have to double back.
Yelena is three drinks deep and sitting at one of the bar stools when she she feels Kate's arms wrap around her waist.
"What’s kickin’, little chicken?"
Kate whispers into Yelena's ear.
"Are you incapable of greeting someone like a normal person?"
Kate places a kiss on Yelena's cheek and takes the seat on the empty stool next to her, setting all of her gear on the floor between them.
"How was practice?"
"Good. Mostly. Until I fucked up my shoulder again."
"What?!" Yelena sounds genuinely concerned. "What happened?!"
"Old high school injury. Keeps flaring up every once in a while. I don't think it's too bad. Hopefully it's back to normal in a few days. I'll try to book a massage or something tomorrow see if it helps. It'll be fine. How was yours?"
"No. Don't deflect. Come on."
Yelena grabs her bag, then Kate's gear, followed by Kate's hand and guides them to the door.
"Your tab?"
"I closed out earlier."
"Where are we going?!"
"You can't say 'I'm injured' and expect me to sit at a bar with you like nothing happened. My dad is a boxer. I know a thing or two about injuries and broken bodies."
"I can carry my own gear, you know...I just did it. It's a little shoulder injury. I'm not dying."
"Shush and tell me exactly what happened."
"Are you being protective of me?"
Kate asks smugly.
"Tell me what happened so I know how to help, Kate."
Kate grins but tells Yelena the story of the high school drunken night that led to Kate being out of rotation for two months and left her shoulder forever fucked. Lucky for Kate, she's a good enough liar and enough of a dedicated sports player that every adult in her life at the time bought that she hurt herself while training and saw no repercussions for it.
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Within ten minutes they're at Kate's apartment. Yelena drags them to the bedroom. She unceremoniously drops everything she was carrying on the floor.
"Take your shirt off then get on the bed. Face down."
"Damn. You didn't even buy me a drink tonight and going straight for the 'shirt off'..."
Kate jokes.
"Kate..." Yelena glares at her before heading for Kate's en suite bathroom. "Lotion or oil anywhere?"
"No."
Yelena pops her head back out to stare at Kate outraged.
"You don't own lotion?"
"No."
"Any sort of cream?"
"No."
"Anything in your bathroom that I can use instead of lotion?"
"Not that I can think of...?"
"Next you're going to tell me you shower and wash your hair with 7-In-1 or something."
Kate grins.
"OH MY GOD, KATE!"
"WHAT?! IT'S EFFICIENT AND IT WORKS! I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM OR A COMPLAINT! ALL THOSE EXTRA BOTTLES SOUND LIKE A WASTE OF PLASTIC WHEN ONE DOES EVERYTHING PERFECTLY FINE!"
"Yeah, it's the plastic...I'm sure."
Yelena rolls her eyes and leans back into the bathroom anyway. Kate hears Yelena digging through drawers and cabinets and then exits empty-handed.
"Kate Bishop, what is that bathroom? I'm taking you shopping tomorrow. First thing on the list is lotion then it's individual bottles of body wash, face wash, shampoo, and conditioner. Also...why are you staring at me? I told you. Shirt off. Bed. Face down."
Kate hesitates but ultimately does as she's told. She takes her shirt off. This is the first time she's been shirtless around Yelena and while Yelena's hands have definitely wandered under Kate's shirt before it's much different to see the definition of her body like this, mostly bare. Yelena suddenly becomes parched in the mouth and drenched in other places.
Not wanting to be reprimanded again, Kate turns to head to the bed. That's when Yelena spots the giant tattoo on Kate's back. Think Ben Affleck's phoenix tattoo but not colorful and maybe half the size but still like......it's most of her entire back. It's not poorly done, it's actually arguably pretty beautiful but it's just...A LOT.
See...Kate's impulsive and reckless. We know this. Even more so when she's not sober and around her friends. She's not a Sagittarius but their symbol is a centaur archer so she has the giant female centaur archer tattooed across her back.
Yelena inhales deeply. She's like...
"Kate...................................what is THAT?"
"Oh. That was a bad night of drinking after we lost a tournament freshman year. Her name is Nancy and we don't talk about her."
Yelena tries to digest as she stares at the egregious tattoo currently half covered by the bra's fabric while Kate lies on the bed. During a long beat, Yelena quietly moves through the seven stages of grief then ultimately arrives at acceptance.
"You should've told me I was dating two brunettes."
Kate chuckles and throws a glance over her shoulder.
"My bad. I thought you'd be into polyamory."
Yelena chucks her shoes off and slides onto the bed, straddling Kate's back. She runs her hands over Kate's shoulders.
"Baby, your muscles are so tight."
"Hmmm..."
Yelena tries to expand her movement and get deeper into Kate's tissue but the sports bra continues getting in the way in every direction. Yelena leans forward and whispers into Kate's ear.
"I need you to take this off."
Yelena commands as she yanks the piece of fabric then rolls off Kate to lie on the bed next to her, giving Kate the room she needed to sit up and remove the item. Yelena was fully expecting Kate to face away from her when she did it then lay back down. It was absolutely possible to do that. It's what Yelena thought would happen. Instead, Kate turns to face Yelena and, without breaking eye contact, lifts the sports bra over her head. She's now completely topless a few inches away from Yelena.
IMMEDIATELY the room becomes charged. The electricity and tension are fucking palpable. Kate was feeling confident for a second but after Yelena doesn't instantly respond there's a flash of self-consciousness in her eyes. Yelena spots it and she feels the need to assuage it on the spot. She closes the distance between them and crashes their lips together while her fingers work to unbutton her own shirt. She throws the shirt aside and she's back to revealing the bra she was wearing this morning. She jumps off the bed and takes her jeans off. Her underwear matches the bra.
"I knew it! I knew they matched! You're too neat to not have sets! I had a feeling!"
Kate exclaims from the bed. Yelena cackles as she makes her way back to the mattress where an expectant Kate ogles at her. Yelena takes her now familiar place and sits on Kate's thighs then leans in to whisper against Kate's lips.
"There's so many more matching sets to look at."
Kate closes the minimal distance while her hands snake her way up from Yelena's thighs to land on the shorter woman's waist.
"Are there?"
"Uhum."
Kate is like JESUS FUCK THANK THE GAY GODS IN RAINBOW HEAVEN I FINALLY MAY HAVE LANDED THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...but then again, she's thought that nearly every day for almost three weeks so this time she's going to check before she quite literally gets too excited. She leans back and breaks the kiss.
"You're not going to get me all riled up then pretend you have to go feed the parrot or snake or chameleon you don't own and leave me here to shrink the battery life out of my sex toys are you?"
Yelena cracks up. Without hesitation she undoes the button of Kate's jeans then slides down her zipper while Kate's breathing hitches as she looks on attentively. Kate's eyes are glued on Yelena's hand as it flirts with the edge of her boxers. Right as her finger start to dip below it, Yelena speaks.
"Hey. Look at me." Kate's eyes dart up at lock with Yelena's. "I'm not going anywhere."
Right at that moment Kate feels Yelena touch her for the the first time and she can confidently say it exceeded any and all expectations. By an infinite number.
Hand kissing.
.
.
.
“I have missed you, Kate Bishop.”
Kate: ... Did you break in and sleep on my couch again? Yelena: I did not! I took the spare key the LAST time I broke in. I did sleep on your couch, though, yes. Kate: And you borrowed my hoodie. Yelena: Borrowed? *laughs* Oh, Kate Bishop... You're not getting it back.
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“every hawkeye needs a black widow”
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The Braiding Incident
Pair: Kate Bishop x Yelena Belova (platonic)
Summary: Yelena tries to braid Kate’s hair.
Natasha is alive in this universe. Also some slight mentions to Red Room tendencies.
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“OW!”
Kate immediately pulls away from Yelena. The two of them were in Kate’s apartment, sitting on her bed. The Russian spy was currently trying to braid Kate’s hair because it was in the way too much when they were training.
Yelena has been trying to teach Kate hand-to-hand combat in addition to her archery skills because, Kate will admit, if she loses her bow, she’s shit outta luck.
But while they were training, Kate’s hair kept flying all over the place and Yelena had just about had it.
“That is it. Go sit down, Kate Bishop, I am pulling your hair back.” Yelena says, playfully pushing Kate towards the bed to sit down on.
“It’s not as bad as you’re saying, Yelena. I’ve fought with my hair like this before, it’s nothing. I mean, it does kind of get distracting sometimes but -” Kate starts to ramble.
“One distraction will get you hurt and we can’t have that. Give me your head” Yelena says.
Kate starts to smirk.
“Why can’t I get hurt? I think getting hurt is quite fun.” She says, sitting down on the bed and letting Yelena start to comb through her hair.
Yelena scoffs.
“Don’t let Clint Barton hear you say that He’ll flip out. You’re lucky he is letting you keep this apartment instead of moving to his farm. My sister says he constantly wants to check and make sure you’re alright. Did he adopt you or something?” She asks.
Kate shrugs.
“I mean, basically. It’s pretty chill though. He and Laura are great and are always there for me, but still let me have my freedom because technically I am an adult.”
Yelena tugs Kate’s hair, pulling it tightly into a Dutch braid. Kate winces silently, but let’s her continue.
“Adult my ass. Just be happy they don’t have a baby monster somewhere here.”
Kate starts to chuckle. Sometimes Yelena says things wrong and it always makes Kate laugh.
“Do you mean baby monitor?”
Yelena tugs again, a bit harder this time as she gets the shape of the braid started.
“What did I say?”
Kate just shakes her head and Yelena shrugs, continuing to braid. Only not for much longer as after a particularly hard tug, Kate cries out.
“OW!”
Yelena stop braiding instantly.
“What is wrong, Kate?”
Yelena has this thing about hurting Kate. She never wants to cause her new friend pain, and whenever it happens, accidentally or not, she feels horrible.
“You were just braiding my hair a little tight there.”
“Oh. Well, that’s how braids are”
Kate stops there and turns to face Yelena. She notices how tight the girl’s own hair is braided and sighs.
“What do you say to letting me re-braid your hair?”
Yelena blinks, confused.
“Why? My hair is already braided?”
Kate shakes her head.
“Just trust me on this.”
And Yelena does.
Kate reaches forward and unwinds the incredibly tight braid in Yelena’s hair. She slowly starts to run her fingers through her friend’s long blonde hair, trying to work out any tangles that could have formed, and then gets to work.
“You see, not all braids need to be so tight. Let’s see this” Kate starts, beginning to pull Yelena’s hair into a way looser French braid.
“But wouldn’t it fall out? That will cause distraction.” Yelena asks, confused because this is all she’s ever known.
Kate nods.
“I know. But this is for when you are not fighting. Your hair does not need to be so tight when you are relaxing or hanging out with someone. Because during those times, it’s okay to have a few distractions.” Kate explains, kindly.
They don’t always have moments where Kate is reminded of Yelena being in the Red Room, but when they do, Kate is more than happy to help Yelena through that moment. Yelena doesn’t usually realize that some of the ideologies she has learned are not typical to people who haven’t been through the Red Room. This is an example.
Kate finishes the loose braid and pulls out her phone camera to show Yelena. There are a few strands pulled out of it that lay on either side.
“See? It looks good and it’s putting less pressure on your head. Whenever you’re not fighting, and need to pull your hair back, this could be helpful. It’ll keep your hair healthier.”
Yelena nods silently, taking in her image reflected back to her through Kate’s phone. She likes it.
“Okay, Kate Bishop.”
Has anyone done this meme yet?
Hawkeyes support each other in all ways. <3
Please do not repost without my permission! Re-blogging is very much welcomed, though! <3
Pairs exceptionally well with this fic
I present to you…
Yelena *Katesexual* Belova, ladies and gentlemen
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They're gonna make a great team
Hawkeye Ep 4 sketches :)
What If...? episode 8 but it's the other Black Widow and Hawkeye. Just a fun idea :)
Ps. I was too lazy to colour the second one 😬
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i read and reread @c--and--b 's fic its so good and wholesome i loved it pls go read it <3
Some of them were interesting to me, so it is very possible that I am writing some of them, they want me to upload them here or in Archive ir our own?
Yelena and Kate prompts because I’m too lazy to write it myself:
So I keep on seeing the same kind of fanfic over and over again which is just Yelena breaking into Kate’s apartment and they hang out or explore New York. Which is okay, but starting to get repetitive.
So why not spice it up a bit with complex stories? With some external problems that they need to deal with?
Feel free to write out these prompts. These could be written as romantic or platonic. Just tag me or send me a link to it so I can read it 😊 and I would appreciate credits for the idea.
1. What if Kate Bishop got brainwashed by Kingpin?
In this story Kingpin somehow had gotten the last Black Widow Mind Control Serum in the world and he used it on Kate. This happens when they fought in that toy store in Episode 6. So during the aftermath, Clint ends up trying to look for Kate now that she’s missing. After discovering that she’s been brainwashed, Clint travels to St. Petersburg to seek for Yelena’s help to cure Kate and free her.
Head canon: Alexei and Melina try to attack him first before Yelena got the chance to explain that Clint wasn’t responsible for Nat’s death.
(I imagined this to have multiple chapters with a strong plot and storyline. Multiple obstacles, with some heartfelt moments)
2. Kate Bishop’s aunt is Valentina (Yelena’s boss)
So a really intense fight leaves Kate and Yelena injured. They both are in need for patching up and the closest place to lay low is Kate’s Aunt’s place. They both spend the night trying to heal each other with ice packs and stitches. Yelena sleeps on the couch but when she wakes up she meets Valentina (Kate’s Aunt). Protecting Kate, Val and Yelena pretend they don’t know each other but when they’re alone they have a conversation about their relationship with Kate. Val warns Yelena to leave Kate alone, but Yelena threatens to tell Kate that her aunt works with killers for hire. Tensions rise unknowingly to Kate. (Tbh I find this more of a dramedy than angst) it would be funny if all three of them have lunch together and Val and Yelena pretend to get along while Kate lies to her aunt that she’s not a superhero.
3. Clint, Natasha, Kate, Yelena - Game Night
Chaotic, fun, comedy one shot. They do pictionary, charades, Uno, Monopoly, Slaps, twister. It’s all fun and games until they get competitive. It’s a family fun night!
4. What if Kate and Yelena gets high and they try to hide it from Natasha and Clint?
Comedy, could be a one shot or a series. It could be accidental or on purpose. But it could take place in any of these situations:
On a mission, Kate was accidentally drugged by an evil scientist but she escapes and she gets super high. She and Yelena try to hide that from Nat and Clint, seeing that this is their first big mission together.
Kate and Yelena are babysitting Clint’s kids but the kids are struggling with getting along with Yelena. So Yelena tries to prove that she’s cool. But then the both find a pot brownie in Cooper’s bedroom. When Clint enters Cooper’s room, in a moment of panic, Yelena shoves the whole brownie in her mouth and ingests it to make sure Cooper doesn’t get in trouble. This earns her a point from Coop. When Clint and Laura leave, Yelena gets incredibly high and Kate has to take care of 1 kid, 2 teenagers, and a high Russian assassin. Great. (Based off B99 Rosa Diaz being high)
They’re all on a mission. And it’s chaotic and funny.
Clint and Nat babysit them while they’re high.
Orrr just twist it up and have Clint and Nat get high. Then Yelena and Kate has to deal with it.
5. Yelena and Kate partner up and try to save Natasha and Clint
Self-explanatory. Could be serious or funny. Or both.
6. All original Avengers turn into toddlers and the New/Young Avengers has to take care of them and try to find a way to get them back as adults.
Yelena taking embarrassing pictures of toddler Natasha. Kate, Lowkey scared to take care of Clint. Peter B. using tiktok or Instagram filters to distract the kids. Bucky and Sam arguing over how to take care of baby supersoldier Steve Rogers. Etc.
7. All New/Young Avengers turn into toddlers and the Avengers has to find a way to turn them back.
I can imagine Natasha having the time of her life with baby Yelena. And Clint is just a tired dad with Kate. Tony stark is trying to be a dad to Peter Parker. Steve doesn’t know what to do with Bucky and Sam. WandaVision are ultimate parents in this, Thor takes care of Loki or whatever, etc. Imagine Scott taking care of his baby daughter again (or even funnier if he had to take care of baby hank LOL). Banner and Dr strange is just so done but they’re trying to find a way to reverse this.
8. Kate and Yelena spy on Natasha and Clint (and fail)
Clint and Natasha have an important meeting and they are trying to convince the Avengers (or the government) to get Kate and Yelena to officially be part of the team. Meanwhile Kate and Yelena try to spy on them through the vents or outside the building’s window. And Clint and Natasha try to make sure that no one looks up or outside. Chaotic, funny. And IT HAS TO END with Yelena and Kate falling into the room with Yelena landing in a perfect pose and Kate lying on the ground Ungracefully.
9. Clint and Natasha spy on Kate and Yelena
This one could be romantic: where Kate and Yelena are on a date. And Clint and Nat are excited for their kiddos; or oblivious it’s a date but curious on why they are acting like that around each other.
This fix could also be platonic: Kate and Yelena have been acting sus and secretive so Nat and Clint try spying on them. Turns out, they just wanna go party at some secret club.
10. Yelena and Kate have a training session together
They spar. Yelena teaches Kate how to use her Widows bites and Kate teaches Yelena archery.
11 . Kate and Yelena swap bodies with Natasha and Clint.
This is because of Dr. strange.
At first it’s fun. Bc Kate as Clint, and Yelena as Natasha, get some Avengers perks: free meals, discounted or free clothes, free cab rides, etc.
Downside: Looking like an avenger means their enemies think you’re the enemy. So Kate and Yelena end up being captured and confronted and fighting some enemy they don’t even know. So they pretend to know this guy, but it ends up in a fight after Kate accidentally insults them.
For Clint as Kate and Natasha as Yelena, they’re enjoying not being noticed. They love the lack of attention. However they can’t get away with things like they used to (like beating up bad guys without getting arrested). They end up looking for Kate as Clint and Yelena as Natasha, and try to rescue them. By the end, they get their bodies back with the help of Dr. strange.
12. What if Yelena and Kate went on Vormir?
- I need a version where Kate sacrifices herself (and brings back Natasha)
- and I need a version where Yelena sacrifices herself (and sees Natasha again)
This whole story goes through the 5 stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance
Either way: there’s a Natasha and Yelena reunion. But Clint is gonna grieve so hard over Kate or Yelena.
13. Clint, Natasha, Kate, Yelena in an escape room. Then went Axe throwing. Then paintball. And to top it off: a Rage Room.
For team bonding, each of them decide what activity to do for the night.
Kate first suggested to do an escape room. At first, Yelena, Nat, and Clint were not really into it. But the more clues they solved, the more excited and invested they became.
Kate is really smart so I feel like she’d be the one who would really solve the clues. (She’s a PI in the comics so)
Yelena tried to play off cool, but she is Lowkey excited to try something remotely normal. She’s the kind of gal who likes fun.
Natasha would point out all the inaccuracies of the theme (let’s say the theme is either a bank heist or a super spy thing)
Clint doesn’t really understand the concept of escape rooms. He keeps suggesting different ways to exit but it’s not part of the room (example: using the vents or breaking the window) so he keeps breaking parts of the room thats not part of the game.
Next, Clint suggests Axe-Throwing, as it’s such an activity that involves aim but it’s really cool. And everyone is into it. Clint never misses. But he got bored so he aims towards the moving objects. Kate misses a couple times but once she hits the target, she doesn’t miss again. Yelena suggests different places to Nat to aim at, and Natasha hits those prompted targets (even if it’s not part of the activity, ex: a sign). Yelena only misses a couple times but is close to the target. She dares Kate to throw an axe to her (since both of them lacks self-preservation), and Yelena promises she’ll catch it. Nat and Clint try to intervene because anyone gets hurt. It’s chaotic and awesome.
Then Nat suggests Painball: I can imagine them going into teams. Either Widows vs Hawkeyes or OG avengers vs new avengers. Or to spice it up Kate/Natasha vs Clint/Yelena. Either way, it involves tactics, strategy, chaos, and competitiveness. It’s last man standing. It also may involve hand-to-hand combat.
Finally, Yelena suggests the last place they go to: a Rage Room. They all have a blast and just smash a bunch of things.
This part must have the line: “I understand why the Hulk loves smashing so much”
They end the night with drinks and laughter.
14. Clint and Natasha time travel to the future to find they’ve been replaced!
So Clint and Natasha (any timeline before Vormir) time travel to the future, and find out that Hawkeye and Widow in the future are Nat’s sister, Yelena, and some rich kid, Kate.
At first they spy on them, but they eventually get caught and meet the future Hawkeye and Widow.
Hi, I've read your text about Yelena not being canonically ace and it was really well written so I thought maybe you wanted to know Devin Grayson just wrote a whole ass Twitter thread saying she doesn't know/doesn't think she's ace lmao
All I will say is, poor Devin had to clarify this again… Thank you for telling me anon! And yeah, she said once more that any concept of Yelena’s sexuality is a headcanon and that that is wonderful. She also added that we had to respect each other and not fight. So people: stop saying Yelena is canonically X or Y. She is not. It’s been confirmed several times, the many possible interpretations that a couple of panels of the comic may have (which, as Devin previously said, vary from person to person and that’s wonderful) are all valid, stop harassing those who don’t share your headcanons. Because that’s all they are and Devin Grayson had to spoke about this again to prevent people harassing others with a different hc. Those who do that: stop. There is no canon thing here, you can (once more) see what Devin said less than a couple hours ago on that topic (I’ll leave the link here, because she addresses it again on Twitter, thank god for that woman). Be kind to each other. I’ll leave the link at the bottom, I’ll make dinner and I’ll read a beautiful Bishova fic on ao3 for comfort before going to sleep because it’s been a hell of a day and I deserve it. Cheers. ❤️
The thread she made:
https://twitter.com/gothamette/status/1488939466852945923?s=21
Have a wonderful evening everyone, and enjoy your fictional characters and your favorite headcanons about them without harassing anyone on the internet.
If you wish to have more knowledge regarding this topic (although it was not written in the best of my days, but I’m human too and so I’ll leave it as it is, I don’t like hypocrisy) there you go:
https://adamantwench.tumblr.com/post/672168979825033216/okay-ive-seen-this-post-and-it-is-absolutely
There's space for every one of us here. Let's behave. Let's also support characters like Tremor in the "big comics" who actually and purposely try to address this properly and of which no one has spoken about or supported.
Archer and the Assassin 5
Note: The header image is a photo capture of a gif edit by @seaquell . The gift edit is beautiful and can be seen above on my blog.
This is the first chapter or fic where I have entered into the romantic shipping of these two characters. I may continue in this vein, but for now, this idea worked out pretty good. I hope you enjoy it.
If you like what you read, please leave a like, comment, or reblog.
Two Times Yelena came to Kate’s bed and one time she didn’t.
It had been about a month since Yelena decided to stay with Kate. It had never been discussed. Kate had never given her a key. The blonde spy had never needed one. Yelena would simply let herself in after whatever job she would go off to do. She would crash on the futon when she returned; most of those first nights without any covers and still in her tactical gear. Sometimes, either she or Kate would make dinner, something simple. But most of the time they were on their own. They were friends, after all, not a couple.
Yelena didn’t complain, but there was something in her ‘my business is not yours’ and ‘for your own safety’ comments that gave Kate the impression that the blonde assassin didn’t care for her new bosses. Of course, it was possible she was being protective which made Kate smile wistfully.
When Kate had gone to bed that evening, Yelena had not yet returned. She waited for a while, scrolling her Instagram, which was nothing more than news items and celebrity postings. It was a sobering and sad moment for her, realizing she had no friends, or acquaintances for that matter. She drifted off to thinking of the Bartons and their nice nuclear family.
The brunette stirred awake when she felt movement in the bed. Someone or something had touched her leg. She sat up straight in shock and though to room was dark, she notice the blonde hair and lovely, oddly peaceful, face of her friend Yelena.
The blonde was dead asleep and had apparently gotten into the bed silently and simply gone to sleep. Kate laid back down as quietly as possible, resting her head on the pillow facing Yelena. Her friend was beautiful. Was it creepy to watch her sleep? After all, they weren’t a couple. She imagined the assassin knowing she was watching her sleep and pretending to be asleep just the scare the crap out of her at any moment. But, she didn’t. Kate also marveled at forwardness of Yelena getting into her bed. Did the woman even consider that Kate might not have wanted it? Or, did she think, or already know, that Kate had fantasized about it many times?
From where her head lay, Kate could see that Yelena was still wearing her tactical suit, at least the under armour long sleeve that zipped up to her neck. Without removing any covers, Kate lightly touched her friend’s leg with a big toe. Yes, she was still wearing her spy pants for lack of a better term. Kate thought it could not be comfortable to sleep in those clothes. She thought they might be too hot, too itchy with sweat. She could how sweat had dried in her hair, at the temples and scalp. Yelena Belova was in her bed. The mysterious woman had literally broken into her life, first making herself at home in her apartment, now making herself at home in her bed. Was Kate such a pushover or did it go deeper than that.
“Do not overthink, Kate Bishop,” Yelena said through a yawn. “It will keep us both awake. Do you want me to go to futon?”
“No,” Kate replied, easily. “You’re fine.”
“Okay. Good night.”
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Seguir leyendo
Marvel:
Just some memes between Yelena & Kate
Date no. 1 went like
Date no. 2 went like
Date no. 3′s gonna be like
Yelena: I was born female
Yelena: I identify as female
Yelena: but according to that box of mac and cheese I ate last night, I also identify as a family of four
Kate: ...
#enemies to lovers #pining #mutual pining #enemies to friends to lovers #humor #crack #oh no theres only 1 bed #tf do we do #nooooooooooooooooo
inspo
𝐰𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐩𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬
𝐡𝐚𝐰𝐤𝐞𝐲𝐞
Looks like Tumblr keeps eating my ask so I’ll take that as the universe saying my other fic sucks lol. On to the next! You put them moving in together after 6 months in your forks fic so they’re hitting milestones at a breakneck speed. Here we go, first kiss!
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It happens on the New Year. Clint and Laura told her repeatedly she was more than welcome to stay with them but she declined. Her mom’s first court appearance is set for the day after Christmas and despite everything, Kate wants to be there for her. A text comes through when she’s just getting home.
‘You promised me drinks, Kate Bishop.’
‘How’d u know I was back?’
‘I am a Spy.’
‘Should I be worried? Am I ur nxt assignment?’
‘Haha. You think I would make appointment to kill? Also poison is for cowards. I would use gun. You would be dead now if I wanted it so.’
Kate doesn’t want to examine how her life got to the point where that was both a turn on and a comfort to read. Another text comes through.
‘This Christmas market you spoke of where can I find it?’
Yelena wasn’t joking about hitting all the tourist traps. Rockefeller was out thanks to Kate’s lumberjack moment but she’d done the statue and the empire state. Kate agreed to the tour guide role, promising drinks and a trip to the market. They see each other every day after, Kate introducing Yelena to more of the city. The trip to Katz Deli followed by Magnolia’s bakery is particularly popular with Yelena but a hole in the wall pizzeria has her perfectly happy as do street meats from vendors in between stops at the Met and the Museum of Natural History. It doesn’t take long to realize food is the way to impressing Yelena and Kate pulls out all the stops to do just that.
They get shawarma at three separate places all claiming to be the destination of the Avengers after the battle of New York. Kate listens to childhood stories of two kids who would grow up to be two of the deadliest women in the world. Smiles at the thought of the woman in front of her, young and lost, whistling knowing she would be found by her big sister.
They agree to watch the ball drop together and it takes a while but Kate finally convinces Yelena not to do that in person. The logistics of it make it far too much of a hassle especially when it’s visible from her rooftop where they’d have easy access to toilets, heat, food and drinks.
Yelena carries the tv up there and rigs it to get cable. Kate refuses to help but watches her lug everything up with no effort. There's a lot of strength in that little body and Kate feels warmer just watching her.
“We have phones that work just as well, Yelena.”
“Not as well, Kate. Bigger screen, all the channels. I don’t want to miss any good performances. This is best.”
“They’re doing the opening number of Rogers the musical at 11-“
“No, no, no! We have tickets for this, I want to be unprepared. It’s going to be hilarious, I can’t wait.”
“Please don’t laugh the whole time, they’ll kick us out.”
Yelena laughs, setting up a couple lawn chairs in front of the TV.
“So funny, Kate Bishop. Kick me out? They do not have enough security in all of Broadway for that. You are hilarious.”
Kate sighs but lets it go. Whatever Yelena gets her into she’s sure they’ll handle it. She brings over a couple blankets and the cooler of drinks then she heads back for the pizzas Yelena brought with her and they settle in to watch ring in the new year.
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Tag!
I left the kiss up to you. Mostly cuz I can't decide if they also sleep together that night so you decide lol. Merry Christmas!
Not "breakneck speed"! They're just useless U-Haul gays. 6 months is taking it slow by gay standards lol :)
Let's do it. First kiss(es)!
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11:50
Yelena had already told Kate the story of her and Natasha, their childhood in Ohio with Alexei and Melina, her life in the Red Room, and everything after it.
"I read file but it is not the same. You tell me the Kate Bishop story in Kate Bishop's words."
"You already know all the spoilers."
"I like movies I know the endings of. Predictable. I can tell what's coming. Like well thought out attack."
"Of course you'd say that."
"What?!"
"Nothing. It's just a very...Yelena thing to say."
"I do not like how you say that. 'Yelena thing to say.'"
Kate looks at her and smiles then looks at the countdown on TV. Seven minutes to midnight.
The dreaded "Midnight Kiss" tradition popped into her head about thirty seconds ago and it's started to make her toes tingle. The sensation has been slowly crawling up her body since. What happens at midnight? Are they going to do the awkward hug thing? The cheek kiss thing? What if Yelena leans in to kiss her? What if she kisses Yelena and gets rejected? What if? What if? What if?
"...ishop? Kate Bishop? If I am that boring that you tune my voice out you should just say so."
"No. No! Sorry. No. Not you. I was just...yeah. Not you. Sorry. What were you saying?"
"That your mother paid me a lot of money to kill you too and maybe I should have done it."
"Very funny."
Kate looks at the clock.
11:55
Kate can't sit anymore. She grabs her beer and stands awkwardly stiff in front of the chair she was just sitting on. She doesn't move, doesn't go anywhere, she just...hovers in front of it.
"Was the chair not to your liking?"
"Chair's fine. Chair's great. Chair's not a problem."
Yelena takes a beat and chortles.
"You are nervous, Kate Bishop."
"I am not nervous. Why would I be nervous? I don't have a single thing to be nervous about."
"I was trained to read body language at twelve." Yelena allows the words to hang in the air. "You are nervous."
"You see this scar right here? Face first into a giant rock in Central Park because I still couldn't even ride my bike properly at twelve. Rub it in."
11:56
Yelena laughs quietly, grabs her vodka rocks, and stands next to the still perfectly immobile Kate. Yelena kills her drink and pours another. She wouldn't say she's drunk but she's not sober either.
"Do you want another American Piss Water bottle?"
Kate shakes her head, pretending she doesn't find the thing endearing.
"Stop calling it that."
"Looks like piss, tastes like piss, and not a real beer. American Piss Water is what I will call it. Come to Russia one day. We will have a real beer together. Do you want another then?"
"I will take another regular American beer, yes."
Yelena grabs one of the bottles she had lugged up earlier and passes it to Kate.
"One American Piss Water for Kate Bishop."
11:57
Kate stands in silence looking out at the sea of people beneath them. She can feel Yelena's eyes scanning her skin.
"What does Kate Bishop think of when she stands in silence?"
"Lots of things."
"Obviously I asked because I want to know what those things are so, tell me."
Kate feels the pit of her stomach light up ablaze. There was something inherently sensual about the way Yelena didn't ask but instructed her instead. Would she ever admit that out loud? Only time would tell.
"I told you. Lots of things."
11:58
But the time wasn't now. Right now she was a bit drunk, quite nervous, and a lot bratty.
"Is one of those things if I will kiss you when midnight happens?" Kate clears her throat trying to hide the fact that she half choked on air. "Because if so, the answer is yes." Yelena pauses. "Unless you do not wish me to."
"NO! No! Do wish! Totally wish!" Kate realizes that was much too eager and reels it back. "Like...if you want...or whatever. Wasn't even thinking about it y'know. It's..."
Kate gets cut off by Yelena's lips on hers. Kate's hands fly to the side of Yelena's face, her cold beer pressing against the older woman's cheeks. Yelena's hand snakes behind Kate's neck pulling her impossibly close. Their tongues meet for a brief moment. Kate feels Yelena's teeth graze her bottom lip in a soft but possessive pull. But before Kate knows it, it's all over. It feels like a million things happened but the kiss lasted five seconds. If that.
11:59
Yelena pulls away and takes a nonchalant sip of her vodka as if absolutely nothing major had just transpired. Kate turns to look at the clock on the TV. The minute countdown has started.
"It's not midnight."
"Sometimes you just have to...not talk."
"Ah. Yeah. Heard that before."
They stand ungracefully as the clock counts down.
"That was...nice." Kate tries to fill the dead air as the screams of the crowd below chanting down from thirty threaten to drown her out.
"You have soft lips." Yelena screams above the people. "And you smell good. Like peaches."
"Thank you! I know right? It's this like, exfoliating thing my mom got me. You're only supposed to use it three times a week but I said 'screw it' and I've been using it every day and it's been so..."
Yelena groans, rolls her eyes, and steps forward to close the distance between them. Her lips are on Kate's with eight seconds to spare.
This time they kiss in earnest. This time they pour everything - all - into it. It's not a "shut up" kiss. Well, it's not just a "shut up" kiss. It's both of them letting out a sigh of relief neither of them knew they'd been holding in for years. It's both of them finding home for the first time.
The ball drop comes and goes by the time they finally decide they need air.
"Is that like...a Russian thing? The tongue thing you did?"
Yelena shrugs, cocky smile painted on her face.
"Maybe."
"I shouldn't have said anything."
"You like how I kiss. It is good. I welcome the feedback."
"Whatever."
Kate smiles and leans in to steal another kiss, seemingly not able to get enough of Yelena's lips. When she pulls away Yelena takes in her face and raises a single brow. It's clear she's quite proud of herself.
"I was right."
"Right about what?"
"You wanting me to kiss you at midnight."
Kate exhales dramatically.
"What? You're going to tell me they taught you how to read minds when you were fifteen?"
"No. But they did teach how to study targets. I paid extra close attention to your file."
yelena is aroace, why is it so hard for you to admit it???
I’ve been staying away from this because it feels like such a pointless thing to argue about. Despite me having my own tagging system that keeps me out of the show, character, and ship tags a seemingly endless amount of you have been ceaselessly hounding me for days, trying to police what I say and do on my blog. I've finally reached my breaking point so…here we go I guess.
Let’s start with the basics since it appears that most of you fail to grasp even that. There’s two distinctly different concepts that fandom conflates and/or tries to use interchangeably because evidently only a handful of us took a literature class in school. Time for a lesson.
CANON: Canon are the elements of a fictional story that are officially a part of it. Canon is IRREFUTABLE information provided directly from the media to the audience. In movies and TV this would mean things like action or dialogue that happen ON SCREEN. In a book or comic it would be things EXPLICITLY said or shown on the page. Canon isn’t fan interpretation/speculation, fix-its, headcanons, what-ifs, something an actor said at a con in front of 200 people or that they “thought maybe that’s a thing their character would do” at an interview in a press junket. Canon is what is IN THE TEXT. End of story.
AUTHORIAL INTENT & DEATH OF THE AUTHOR:
-Authorial Intent: An author can have an “intention” with a piece but that ends the moment the story is out of their hands and the reader/viewer takes ownership of it. Why? Because none of us see the world the same way. Literally. The author simply cannot control how an individual will read their work, cannot dictate how we embrace what they supposedly wrote, and cannot force us to throw out our own takeaway of the text. It is entirely possible that my experience with the text or the characters is vastly different than what they “intended” that to be and there is nothing wrong with that. Once art is out in the world it is going to take a life of its own. That is how subjectivity works.
-Death Of The Author: TV Tropes defines Death Of The Author as follows: “It holds that an author's intentions and background (including their politics and religion) should hold no special weight in determining how to interpret their work. This is usually understood to mean that a writer's views about their own work are no more or less valid than the interpretation of the reader.”
Now that we’ve established both those things let’s break down Yelena’s case in particular.
Let’s start with the “Ace” part. It is more than obvious that you guys are taking AUTHORIAL INTENT and confusing it with CANON. One of the authors wrote an obscure blog post where they expressed some thoughts. Let’s highlight key quotes from the post:
“Most scholars agree that the first official use of “aromantic” was documented in 2005. That’s thirty-five years after I was born, six years after Yelena was invented, and—fictionally--approximately ten years after Yelena would have come into being (in the version of events where she was born rather than cloned).”
Oh well...right off the bat, Authorial Intent seems to be out the window. The term didn’t even exist when they created Yelena ergo it is impossible that they set out to write her as “ace”. Next.
“But now, let’s talk a bit about Yelena. When I first invented her, I didn’t give much thought to her romantic life or sexuality because neither factored into the story I was telling at the time. Later, when I had lived with her a little longer and someone asked me if she might be ACE, I thought that actually made a lot of sense for her.”
This is an "afterthought" situation. I’m not saying this to undermine the writer as a person, saying they have ill will, or calling them a liar. But this is - as clearly stated BY THEM - an afterthought. Yelena was not created as an "ace" character. Next.
These are going to be two quotes:
“I like the idea of her being ACE and hope they go with that, but despite my 20+ years writing comics, there isn’t even anyone there I can mention that to. That’s not how comics work. Even if I said she’s X or Y or X and Y, Marvel might be a day away from releasing something that takes her in a totally different direction. Ultimately, my ideas about how Yelena identifies are no more right or wrong than yours.
I have a lot to say about how unfairly creative IP is handled in this industry, but that’s not what we’re here to discuss. What I do want to impart is that it’s a bad idea to trust multibillion-dollar corporations to represent you and your community.”
and
“I am a fan-fic writer and RPer, though, and I firmly believe that when you write or play or draw a character, you get to decide what is and isn’t true about them. No one can tell you you’re wrong (except, perhaps, your GM) – that’s the entire point. So if your question is really, “do you think it’s okay if I write/play Yelena as X or Y or interested in Z,” I am always going to support your choices. 100%. Do what you think feels right and makes sense. FWIW, you have my blessing."
The writer is LITERALLY TELLING YOU, in black and white, to headcanon Yelena as whatever you want because...
Their own ideas of Yelena are basically headcanons at this point.
They understand the inherent importance of representation and they agree that it would be cool that she could be this one thing but that they do not make and cannot make any creative decisions about what the character is or isn’t.
They are making it clear to you - the fan - that they do not get to dictate canon because they do not own the character. Disney/Marvel does. They are telling you that “you as an individual decide what her truth is and how you want her to represent to YOU” and yet somehow you guys turned that open invitation into “I must hound everyone who disagrees with my personal interpretation of how I want her to represent ME”.
Now, relevant quotes excerpted…beyond this one blog post there is no other actual canon evidence in any of the comics of Yelena verbalizing anything about her sexuality. At all. Anywhere. If you have it, please make me eat crow. Correct me. But I’ve been doing vast research on it for a couple of days now and have even asked people to provide it and no one can which is pretty strong evidence that there isn’t. All that anyone can come up with is the author's blog post and another interview where they have yet another throwaway sentence of Authorial Intent. This is it:
"PROBABLY MORE LIKELY". That is an opinion, my friends. This is all you have. Intent and Opinions does not canon make.
Now, onto my absolute fucking favorite part of this whole thing...
You want to know what IS canon? You want to know what you all conveniently and willingly choose to gloss over and never mention because it doesn't serve your narrative?
1) The fact that CANONICALLY Yelena is a lingerie model and a sex worker who owns a soft-core porn empire. [x]
2) The fact that in this scene she has an entire conversation with Natasha about how she chooses to use her body to sexually manipulate targets to get what she wants:
Interesting how I had to start doing research into Yelena to learn that because in this entire conversation about “representation” sex workers and sex positive, feminist women had never once come up. Funny how apparently sex workers don’t deserve a superhero then? Hmmmm...
I’m not saying one is more worthy than the other, just a point I figured was worth flagging because it just seems oh so very curious to me.
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Let’s move onto the “Aro” part because this is the real doozy. This is the one y’all truly bent yourselves into a pretzel to come up with. At least there is some sort of something you can cling to on the "ace" front but on this one you really just went for the mountain of straws and started to grasp.
The "proof" you guys use of her being "aro" is a single panel of her saying "I'm not...anything". Here's the entire scene instead of just the one frame you guys use out of context:
I'm going to use two different sources here to debunk this one.
- This person had already read the whole series the panel you guys chose to extract that ONE frame from and completely misconstrue to support your point. Here are a couple of excerpts of the ask they answered:
“…It’s more people seeing that one panel and misunderstanding it.[…] The panel where she says "I’m not anything" is a reoccurring theme throughout this series specifically about her not seeing herself as the Black Widow and her dehumanization of herself. The full page itself is about the woman she was talking to goading Yelena by asking if she was into BDSM.”
I then had a DM conversation with the person to find out more because I wanted to get further context about the series as a whole since they had the full picture. I specifically asked them questions about this part. They said the following:
“The way she [the woman] degrades her [Yelena] and calls her worthless is supposed to be feeding into Yelena thinking she isn’t as good as Natasha and how she’s not truly the Black Widow. The "I Am Nothing" is the writers very badly trying to ham fist their way into having Yelena saying she is nothing as she is not the Black Widow, which is the main point of the comic."
Without having read the rest of the comic, if I were to see these panels in isolation, I would have a slightly different interpretation of the scene, because...again...no one digests texts the same way. This is a prime example of that. What I would gather from it is that Yelena would be saying “I am nothing” as in “I don’t label myself as anything” rather than literally just jumping straight to “I am aromantic”. Like…that is such a giant stretch that it’s almost laughable.
The second person I'm quoting is an AROACE person who made a whole thread on twitter agreeing that Yelena is NOT canon aroace and sharing pretty solid (and similar) factual evidence as to why.
[Full disclosure: I was sent this link as I was in the process of finishing this post by someone who knew I was writing it and I figured it was worth adding an Aro/Ace voice to the mix as well].
Here are some good excerpts:
"...in said interview grayson talks about yelena being asexual then proceeds to describe yelena as aromatic instead, making it clear that she doesn't know the difference between the two orientations..."
The writer then proceeds to break down and analyze the same misconstrued panels I was quoting above. She runs through several possible scenarios of what that scene could mean, all just as likely as the other. All valid interpretations. All different versions of Yelena as an LGBT character. This is the most important part to me tho:
"...once again think about the time and place yelena grew up in. you're going to try and tell me yelena knows what asexual is and what it means? muchless aromantic? she grew up in approximately 70s russia... expecting her to know her sexuality at that point is kinda weird?
now with all this in mind (especially the last three!) it pretty much completely erases any chance that those panels are meant to be her saying shes aroace. as far as im aware these are the only two pieces of evidence people try to use to confirm yelena as canonically aroace. both are very easily debunked.
i am by no means here to tell anyone not to write yelena as aroace, she's your character do what you want! i'm only here to educate people on this topic. and as someone who is BOTH aro and ace its absolutely my place to speak on this. [...] all i want is for this non-existent canon to stop being continuously shoved down everyone's throats."
And finally:
"i'd also just like to add the way a lot of people tend to handle this topic of conversation is very weird. if your first instinct when you see an aroace character is to say they cant be shipped or cant have sex... that's weird! aroace is a spectrum! not all aroaces are repulsed by sex and relationships! yes, some aroaces are! but not all of them. to immediately force her into that box with no evidence is extremely stereotypical! a very good majority of conversation based around aroace yelena is riddled with stereotypes."
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I'm going to revisit the opening lesson for a beat because it has to do with my final point. Let me quote myself in case we already forgot:
"Canon is IRREFUTABLE information provided directly from the media to the audience. In movies and TV this would mean things like action or dialogue that happen ON SCREEN."
Why am I circling back? Because with this new wave of IP and adaptations that we're living in. So many pieces of IP are getting adapted from podcasts, comics, books, etc into TV/Film. Changes are always going to be made from the original to the screen. Always. ALWAYS. What is canon in one is not necessarily going to be canon in the other. They're two completely separate pieces of media. Every single time. They immediately become divorced and stand-alone from each other as soon as a derivative is created.
It's why you see things like couples being "endgame" in books but not in shows/movies. Or people being alive or dead in books but not in TV/films. Or major story points being changed. Or new characters being introduced or omitted from adaptations at all. They are not the same thing. Canon on text is one thing. CANON ON SCREEN IS ANOTHER. Shut up already about "what's canon here must be canon here" and learn the difference.
Do you want to know how much characters/relationships have changed from Marvel comics to the MCU? Let me list a few things that are canon in the comics just for quick references.
Black Widow had romances with Bucky, Hawkeye, and Daredevil.
Hela is Loki’s daughter not his sister.
Pepper was never married to Tony.
Black Window and the Hulk have never been on the Avengers together.
Natasha and Yelena are rivals not sisters.
I could keep going but I think you get the point. Marvel Comics are not the MCU. I'll repeat:
MARVEL COMICS ARE NOT THE MCU.
Simply because something happens or is true is one does not mean it must be true in the other. It is especially important to drive that point home in this case because "Yelena is aroace" isn't even a canon fact in the comics. It's farfetched at best. At best.
My goal with this is not to tell you to not headcanon Yelena as aroace. If that is important to you, dear god fucking do it to your heart's content. No one is trying to fucking take that from you. Matter of fact, if you want to string two whispers of a stretch together and pretend in your delusional little head that it’s “canon” be my guest. Where the issue begins is that you are now trying to militaristically enforce this “canon” myth when it is nothing more than that…A MYTH. And you are trying to force it on people who weren't fighting you on it to begin with. People like me who were just over here in my own corner of the internet minding my own business. I wasn’t invading your spaces, arguing with any of you, or trying to debunk any of your beliefs until you all insisted on coming to me with this bullshit over and over and over again.
All I - a casual viewer who had zero knowledge of the comics or the backstory - wanted to do was calmly enjoy and interpret these two characters and their relationship however the show had established them which was...AS A BLANK SLATE. Right now in the MCU they are non-denominational. They have never said Kate is [XYZ] and Yelena is [ABC] therefore I am free to construe them and pair them however I see fit. It is not up to you to tell me otherwise.
Now, with all that settled, leave me the fuck alone.
Take a moment to read this and ship and let ship. Last message from Devin Grayson (Yelena's creator) herself from today. Exchange between @/LorenaThranriel and her TODAY. #Yelena’s sexuality is COMPLETELY and oficially up to fans, open to any kind of interpretations. So write what you want fellas, however you want and be respectful of one another. I also add another capture of some time ago (because Devin actually only saw her as ace and attracted to women). But as of now, with this response from today, Yelena can have any sexuality as a headcanon, which is the only thing we only really had about her: headcanons. Anyway, congrats folks: nothing is canon, everything is allowed as for now so we can stop pushing our hcs onto other people. The first one that does it, idc what their hc is, will go to my block list. You’ve been warned and you have actual proof now. From today. I’m very happy about this and will feel better when writting and reading fics. ❤️
